Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:59 pm  

steve1g wrote:

I agree with an earlier comment that if he does go we should have a first option clause if he returns to SL as we'll get back an even better version because the NRL will stiffen up his defence and game reading to add to his world class finishing.

I think any fee should be close to the £400k Wigan paid for Offiah in the 90s regardless of his past injuries but doubt it will be

If we insert a first option clause then it would only be possible whilst he is still under contract. So we would have to pay a transfer fee to get him back. Doubt somehow we’ll be affording that.

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:48 pm  

vastman wrote:

I hope he goes, he’s too good for us and too good for SL.

We as a club and a game have let Tom down.

Twice he’s battled through injury and been better than ever. However the second time he came back to a team that had gone backwards. A team he had defended with heartfelt passion just before said injury.

Tom is a super nice lad but above all he’s a true athlete and an entertainer. He trusted the club or more importantly he trusted his coaches and fellow players to share his commitment and they simply haven’t. He has been betrayed, not the only one but certainly the most gifted.

I’ve tried to be positive but my heart sank the moment we signed Westerman, ives even defended him but signing players like him is a disaster.

No doubting the ability but he’s old now and he still has the dreadful attitude he’s always had. Nobody else wanted him except us, what were you thinking club. Brough was nearly as bad but at least Broughy has heart.

I can’t be sure but Westerman has team killer written all over him. Injuries killed us last year but this year there is clearly something wrong in the team. TJ for a start no longer looks happy when he scores, barely celebrates.

It may not be Westerman, I’m only going on his history. It could be any of them but somehow the signings we are making aren’t working?

To me they all look wrong with the exception of Wood and perhaps Tangata. Just my opinion but to me it looks like we’ve lost the spirit that made us formidable only 18 month ago.

Why would s play from the heart player like TJ want to stay for that.

Leeds under Agar? Hang your boots up now lad as that bloke will destroy you.

NRL, go for it with my support..

That's they way I see it, can't deny I'd love to see just how good he could be playing in that environment playing against the best week in week out.

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:00 pm  

Alchemist1 wrote:

Just not sure dragons right team for him how they play im sure boj wont mind me saying sharks with sean johnson would be a better fit !!

sharks looking over their shoulder for the dragons in the race to the top 8? ha ha ha
the dragons wingers have been our only shining light this year - so he may struggle to get into the first team as it sits at the moment

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:05 pm  

steve1g wrote:

I agree with an earlier comment that if he does go we should have a first option clause if he returns to SL as we'll get back an even better version because the NRL will stiffen up his defence and game reading to add to his world class finishing.

I think any fee should be close to the £400k Wigan paid for Offiah in the 90s regardless of his past injuries but doubt it will be

ad he would look great in the red v SG?

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:37 pm  

Even though he'd struggle to get a game in front of this season's shining light wingers Ding Dong (who looks shocked every time he catches a bomb) & Pereira...or Saab who's just a poor mans Daniel Tupou...do me a favour:)

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:23 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

If we insert a first option clause then it would only be possible whilst he is still under contract. So we would have to pay a transfer fee to get him back. Doubt somehow we’ll be affording that.

If we put a clause in it needs to be if still under contract we get first refusal and if out of contract we get first refusal. There could be a difference. If the project didn’t work and the dragons allowed him to leave more than likely they probably wouldn’t command a fee they would probably want him off their books freeing cap space

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:08 am  

supercat wrote:

If we put a clause in it needs to be if still under contract we get first refusal and if out of contract we get first refusal. There could be a difference. If the project didn’t work and the dragons allowed him to leave more than likely they probably wouldn’t command a fee they would probably want him off their books freeing cap space

The difference is if he's out of contract it's up to him what he does, he'll be a free agent.

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:01 am  

little wayne69 wrote:

The difference is if he's out of contract it's up to him what he does, he'll be a free agent.

We still might be able to add a clause that once his contract is either broken or run down that we get first refusal even if out of contract. This has happened in union and football.

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:13 am  

I think T J would get into the dragons side no problem but would his body stand up to the physicality of the NRL. Suppose there's only one way to find out I hope he stays here but good luck to him if he goes. He will leave us with some memorable and breathtaking finishes.

Re: Johnstone to Nrl : Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:36 am  

supercat wrote:

We still might be able to add a clause that once his contract is either broken or run down that we get first refusal even if out of contract. This has happened in union and football.

How does that work if he's out of contract, firstly if he leaves it's most likely because we are a selling club and have cashed in as per, secondly once the buying club have had their use of him they will either sell him early or get the best deal they can for themselves or just run his contract down which makes him a free agent to do as he wants, if and it's a big IF Johnstone gives Wakey first refusal it will be be out of loyalty to the club nothing more, could you possibly give an example where it happens in union or football.