Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:07 pm  

I just feel like the club are cruising towards oblivion.

Chester isn't going to fall on his sword & his buddy is unlikely to give him the boot, as per Webster & Smith, who both walked away.

To replace the backroom staff would cost a pretty penny, hardly likely in these challenging times, so why not limp along for one more season before the old Sky deal expires, even that is around £280k less than this year!

The majority of the players will get another gig, some in S.L. some in the Championship, the owners can call time on the whole caboodle & pass the dump of a ground back to the Council as a bit of payback for their duplicity over the Newmarket fiasco.

The only people who will suffer are the fans, but to be truthful I feel like I've suffered enough, fifty years for what, one Challenge Cup final, surely that's a considerable form of self-harm?

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:54 pm  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

I've suffered enough, fifty years for what, one Challenge Cup final, surely that's a considerable form of self-harm?

OK no one can dispute we are in a real bad patch AGAIN.

But how pathetic is that comment? 50 years! 1970 to 2020 and all you can remember is the 1979 cup final. I can't even be bothered to list some of the fantastic moments during that period. WTF were Belly, Ray Price, Toppo, JD, Solomona, Tom Johnstone and many others busting a bloody gut for?

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:48 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

OK no one can dispute we are in a real bad patch AGAIN.

But how pathetic is that comment? 50 years! 1970 to 2020 and all you can remember is the 1979 cup final. I can't even be bothered to list some of the fantastic moments during that period. WTF were Belly, Ray Price, Toppo, JD, Solomona, Tom Johnstone and many others busting a bloody gut for?

OK then Wollo. Tell us another Superleague side that hasn't made a Wembley appearance since us in 1979.
Yes we've seen some great players (you don't seem to mention Wally Lewis), but surely you would expect any Superleague fan to expect their side to have made at least one visit to Wembley in 41 years.

Your example is like comparing apples to oranges.

Crikey man I support Barnsley FC ( a second or third tier side) and I've seen my team at Wembley 3 times in 8 years so I don't think DA's comments are as pathetic as you make out

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:10 pm  

Redscat wrote:

OK then Wollo. Tell us another Superleague side that hasn't made a Wembley appearance since us in 1979.
Yes we've seen some great players (you don't seem to mention Wally Lewis), but surely you would expect any Superleague fan to expect their side to have made at least one visit to Wembley in 41 years.

Your example is like comparing apples to oranges.

Crikey man I support Barnsley FC ( a second or third tier side) and I've seen my team at Wembley 3 times in 8 years so I don't think DA's comments are as pathetic as you make out

I don't expect anything. I hope I have a Wakefield Trinity to follow. I enjoy the good times and not the bad. Lack of a Final appearance since 1979 is sad but has no effect on my commitment to my home town club.

Wembley appearances for Football Clubs are ten a penny these days. I followed Barnsley back in the 60s/70's (Eric Winstanley days) on Saturdays when a Wembley appearance was even less likely than one for Wakey. Still enjoyed it.

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Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:20 pm  

Redscat wrote:

OK then Wollo. Tell us another Superleague side that hasn't made a Wembley appearance since us in 1979.
Yes we've seen some great players (you don't seem to mention Wally Lewis), but surely you would expect any Superleague fan to expect their side to have made at least one visit to Wembley in 41 years.

Your example is like comparing apples to oranges.

Crikey man I support Barnsley FC ( a second or third tier side) and I've seen my team at Wembley 3 times in 8 years so I don't think DA's comments are as pathetic as you make out

I don't see why we should expect a Wembley visit.
We've come close in that time but we haven't been good enough.
But we have stayed in Super League when others haven't and we have had times that were way beyond our expectation.

I've said it elsewhere but if you are expecting silverware to be guaranteed just because others have it, you are supporting the wrong club.

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:15 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't see why we should expect a Wembley visit.
We've come close in that time but we haven't been good enough.
But we have stayed in Super League when others haven't and we have had times that were way beyond our expectation.

I've said it elsewhere but if you are expecting silverware to be guaranteed just because others have it, you are supporting the wrong club.

I don't think any of our supporters 'expect' silverware at all. The least they expect is effort every week and an improvement year on year if possible. If Salford can get to a Grand Final and a Challenge Cup Final in successive seasons then surely to goodness we can aspire to that too? Or otherwise why bother if we're only gonna be in it to make the numbers up. They're not even challenging in the league yet have managed to reach a final again. What does 'way beyond our expectation mean'? My expectation especially after two top 5 finishes and a coach telling us he's built his best ever squad is to keep improving in the league and an assault on the Cup not spectacularly go backwards and fail to win in 25 out of 30 plus games.

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:28 pm  

Expecting finals and trophies, no one in this day and age should expect that, that it taking things for granted, which in this day and age is wrong.

However, competing and putting your hat into the ring, and giving everything your best shot, and saying u tried, that is totally different, and as a supporter, if that’s what you did, you won’t be judged.

Unfortunately, with this bunch of players, and other staff, I humus doubts, and no supporter should be judged on that view

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:32 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I don't see why we should expect a Wembley visit.
We've come close in that time but we haven't been good enough.
But we have stayed in Super League when others haven't and we have had times that were way beyond our expectation.

I've said it elsewhere but if you are expecting silverware to be guaranteed just because others have it, you are supporting the wrong club.

Yes, PT, but how many times have we avoided relegation by default.

Apart from the ten other SL clubs you could include non SL clubs Widnes, Bulls, Sheffield Eagles, Halifax, Fev & London. That's sixteen RL clubs that have appeared in a Challenge Cup final since we were last at Wembley. Not good eh??

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Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:42 am  

Redscat wrote:

Yes, PT, but how many times have we avoided relegation by default.

Apart from the ten other SL clubs you could include non SL clubs Widnes, Bulls, Sheffield Eagles, Halifax, Fev & London. That's sixteen RL clubs that have appeared in a Challenge Cup final since we were last at Wembley. Not good eh??

And I bet most of those others would swap their day out for the big time now.

Re: CARTER pull the trigger now : Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:54 am  

Redscat wrote:

OK then Wollo. Tell us another Superleague side that hasn't made a Wembley appearance since us in 1979.
Yes we've seen some great players (you don't seem to mention Wally Lewis), but surely you would expect any Superleague fan to expect their side to have made at least one visit to Wembley in 41 years.

Your example is like comparing apples to oranges.

Crikey man I support Barnsley FC ( a second or third tier side) and I've seen my team at Wembley 3 times in 8 years so I don't think DA's comments are as pathetic as you make out

Wasn't Salford's last Wembley visit in 1969 when they lost to Cas and 1938 they beat Barrow at Wembley, I'd say Trinity's Wembley history has a bit more substance, In the new era they are just ahead