Re: 2021 squad : Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:04 pm  

dickie mint wrote:

Not sure if this is a cack handed attempt at humour, or just another blatant attack of sarcasm on your part

Both, sarcasm and humour are the same thing surely. It’s only called sarcasm when you can’t take a joke.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:38 am  

OK, here it is so far, some teams still to do. I admit it's not yet definitive for any club yet, ourselves included. Please excuse spellings.

I fully accept I may have missed some of the very latest signings.

* Indicates players who play more than one position and as such ARE NOT specialist props IMHO, middles as they now call them.

Feel free to add but you must differentiate between specialist pros and utility/middle. Thanks

Hudds (so far)

Wilson
English
Gavet
Kirby*
Trout*
Yates*
Ta'ai

Hull KR (tricky this one)

Vete
King
Maher
Mudoti
Simms*
Lawler*

Hull FC (so far)

Taylor
Satae
Matongo
Brown
Sao*
Fash*
Bowden*

Leeds

Seumanufagai
Olędzki
Holdroyd
Harrison
Prior*
Tetevano*


Salford

Ikahihifo
Mossop
Johnson
Pauli Pauli*

Wigan

Singleton
Bullock
Burgess
Kilner
Chubb*
Partington*

Saints

Walmsley
Lees
Amor
Paasi
Norman
LMS*

Cas

Watts
Smith
Hepi
Martin
Millington*
Lafao*
Moors*

Wakefield Trinity

Fifita
Green
Tanganata
Tanginoa
Aydin
Arona*
Westerman*

Right, I don't give a monkey's about the relative quality of the players, that is purely subjective and can't be decided until the end of the 2021 season for certain, we'd be here all day arguing that one. It's the numbers and ours add up and if we got Battye they would add up better than most.

More teams to follow.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:16 pm  

Leeds have released Suemanuwhatever. Going back home.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:31 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Leeds have released Suemanuwhatever. Going back home.

Well they are doomed, not enough props

That was low level sarcasm, I’ll get me coat.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:01 pm  

vastman wrote:

OK, here it is so far, some teams still to do. I admit it's not yet definitive for any club yet, ourselves included. Please excuse spellings.

I fully accept I may have missed some of the very latest signings.

* Indicates players who play more than one position and as such ARE NOT specialist props IMHO, middles as they now call them.

Feel free to add but you must differentiate between specialist pros and utility/middle. Thanks

Hudds (so far)

Wilson
English
Gavet
Kirby*
Trout*
Yates*
Ta'ai
Lawrence*

Hull KR (tricky this one)

Vete
King
Maher
Mudoti
Simms*
Lawler*
Harrison*
Mudoti

Hull FC (so far)

Taylor
Satae
Matongo
Brown
Sao*
Fash*
Bowden*
Brown

Leeds

Olędzki
Holdroyd
Harrison
Prior*
Tetevano*


Salford

Ikahihifo
Mossop
Johnson
Pauli Pauli*
Burke*
Ormondroyd
Greenwood*

Wigan

Singleton
Bullock
Burgess
Kilner
Chubb*
Partington*
Byrne
Havard
Clark
Kilner

Saints

Walmsley
Lees
Amor
Paasi
Norman
LMS*

Cas

Watts
Smith
Hepi
Martin
Millington*
Lafao*
Moors*
Massey
Cook*
Griffin

Wakefield Trinity

Fifita
Green
Tangata
Tanginoa*
Aydin
Arona

I’ve used Wikipedia, so apologies if any of the players I’ve added have since moved on.

I’ve taken Westerman off ours, he’s never played prop and at the moment it’s just speculation on here. Whichever way you look at we need another prop, two in my opinion. Even with just Battye we’d need some luck with injuries.

Leeds have just released Ava, so they look light as well. I expect them to recruit.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:21 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote: I’ve used Wikipedia, so apologies if any of the players I’ve added have since moved on. I’ve taken Westerman off ours, he’s never played prop and at the moment it’s just speculation on here. Whichever way you look at we need another prop, two in my opinion. Even with just Battye we’d need some luck with injuries. Leeds have just released Ava, so they look light as well. I expect them to recruit. Are you taking the mick, virtually none of those have ever played prop yet you take Westerman off! Wilson English Gavet Kirby* Trout* Yates* Ta'ai Lawrence* Oh come on! Loose forward, Second-row, Centre, Wing, no mention of Prop - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L ... gby_league) Hull KR (tricky this one) Vete King Maher Mudoti Simms* Lawler* Harrison* Mudoti Is that his twin further up Hull FC (so far) Taylor Satae Matongo Brown Sao* Fash* Bowden* Brown Already in the list Leeds Olędzki Holdroyd Harrison Prior* Tetevano* Salford Ikahihifo Mossop Johnson Ormondroyd Pauli Pauli* Burke* Greenwood* Second Row, played prop once, so I'll add Crowther to ours then Wigan Singleton Bullock Burgess Kilner Byrne Chubb* Partington* Havard - 1 game, ok Clark - No longer at Wigan Kilner - So good you've named him twice Saints Walmsley Lees Amor Paasi Norman LMS* Cas Watts Smith Hepi Martin Millington* Lafao* Moors* Massey* Not a specialist prop though! You need to add the *!!!!!!! Cook* He's gone. Griffin* Again not a specialist prop though! I've put the specialist and experienced (and I'm being generous with some) in red. Still can't see many with 6, can you? Just admit you're wrong and we are fairly well off and if Battye joined we'd be spot o, Fifita Tangata Green Battye Aydin Arona Tanginoa Westerman That's five Props and three Prop/Middles, all proven even Aydin a little.

imwakefieldtillidie wrote: I’ve used Wikipedia, so apologies if any of the players I’ve added have since moved on. I’ve taken Westerman off ours, he’s never played prop and at the moment it’s just speculation on here. Whichever way you look at we need another prop, two in my opinion. Even with just Battye we’d need some luck with injuries. Leeds have just released Ava, so they look light as well. I expect them to recruit. Are you taking the mick, virtually none of those have ever played prop yet you take Westerman off! Wilson English Gavet Kirby* Trout* Yates* Ta'ai Lawrence* Oh come on! Loose forward, Second-row, Centre, Wing, no mention of Prop - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L ... gby_league) Hull KR (tricky this one) Vete King Maher Mudoti Simms* Lawler* Harrison* Mudoti Is that his twin further up Hull FC (so far) Taylor Satae Matongo Brown Sao* Fash* Bowden* Brown Already in the list Leeds Olędzki Holdroyd Harrison Prior* Tetevano* Salford Ikahihifo Mossop Johnson Ormondroyd Pauli Pauli* Burke* Greenwood* Second Row, played prop once, so I'll add Crowther to ours then Wigan Singleton Bullock Burgess Kilner Byrne Chubb* Partington* Havard - 1 game, ok Clark - No longer at Wigan Kilner - So good you've named him twice Saints Walmsley Lees Amor Paasi Norman LMS* Cas Watts Smith Hepi Martin Millington* Lafao* Moors* Massey* Not a specialist prop though! You need to add the *!!!!!!! Cook* He's gone. Griffin* Again not a specialist prop though! I've put the specialist and experienced (and I'm being generous with some) in red. Still can't see many with 6, can you? Just admit you're wrong and we are fairly well off and if Battye joined we'd be spot o, Fifita Tangata Green Battye Aydin Arona Tanginoa Westerman That's five Props and three Prop/Middles, all proven even Aydin a little.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:31 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

I’ve used Wikipedia, so apologies if any of the players I’ve added have since moved on.

I’ve taken Westerman off ours, he’s never played prop and at the moment it’s just speculation on here. Whichever way you look at we need another prop, two in my opinion. Even with just Battye we’d need some luck with injuries.

Leeds have just released Ava, so they look light as well. I expect them to recruit.

Matt cook has left Cas, and Greenwood has never played prop for Salford so exactly like Westerman

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:37 pm  

Jose wrote:

Matt cook has left Cas, and Greenwood has never played prop for Salford so exactly like Westerman

I didn’t realise that about Cook as he’s still on the website, and Salford have Greenwood listed as a prop on theirs.

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:12 pm  

vastman wrote:

Fifita
Tangata
Green
Battye
Aydin
Arona
Tanginoa
Westerman

That's five Props and three Prop/Middles, all proven even Aydin a little.

Westerman still isn’t a prop, and Battye hasn’t signed.

vastman wrote:

I think we need one prop for sure two if possible.

What’s changed since you said this 3 pages ago?

Re: 2021 squad : Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:07 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

Westerman still isn’t a prop, and Battye hasn’t signed.

What’s changed since you said this 3 pages ago?

Ok, we are getting nowhere, so my last word.

You said the rest of the SL squads had at least 6 specialist and experienced props, the list proves they don't, that's what's changed.

I honestly don't mind you not rating our Props/Middles, that's your opinion. What I had an issue with are the false numbers you gave. We are in a similar boat to just about everyone else except for Leigh, too whom the rest of SL is vastly superior on paper, at least for now. We start with as good a squad as most SL teams, including props. Not saying it's a winning team but I am saying the numbers stack up.

Have a happy new year