Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:14 pm  

Like I said that's the response I expected
BORING.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:17 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

One final reply vastman.
I have always kept clear of having a go at the players and inever run them down., however I have had a go collectively if the team have performed well below expectations.
I never wanted to see CC shown the back door unlike yourself.
I do critasise the clubs lack of ambition and feel I'm not on my own on that subject.
Yes you have become boring constantly jumping on the back of a number of posters without reading the post in full in the first place and going on for ever to constantly attempt to humiliate them and bow to your self proclaimed superiority.
You seem to be an expert on all subject and have and have an opinion everything, the vast majority in my opinion fall well short of the mark and what you don't know you make up on a egular basis,
Anyway for me at the end of the day it's about opinions and supporting the club in what ever way you can and being honest in my observations..
You seem t I'm think you have some sort of manopoly on the site and your view is the only right view. ITS NOT COME TO TERMS WITH IT.

ambition in rugby league always comes with a price tag ultimately. hard work gets you so far. the final step costs a lot of money. look at huddersfield. Ken davy has thrown 30 million in over 20 year and won 1 league leaders shield. The only people that ever utter the words 'speculate to accumulate' would never ever do it with any money they have, but are expert in telling others what they should do with their money

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:25 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

Like I said that's the response I expected
BORING.

Can’t win with you, a boring one word reply, that takes some doing.

You post, I reply if I feel the need, if that’s monopolising the forum then so be it. You do realise I can’t stop you posting, I have no power.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:39 pm  

That's not entirely correct Jose, thousands of people every year speculate to accumulate when starting up a new business.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:46 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

That's not entirely correct Jose, thousands of people every year speculate to accumulate when starting up a new business.

with their own money! Not someone else's!

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:21 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

That's not entirely correct Jose, thousands of people every year speculate to accumulate when starting up a new business.

Ok so who in there right mind would do so with a RL club, a business that will never give a financial return. The point Jose is making is that it’s easy to demand others speculate with there money. Not so easy with your own. Why don’t you sell everything you have and invest in Trinity? No, I thought not and neither would I.

You simply can’t speculate to accumulate in sport, especially RL. As pointed out Davey has and has nothing to show for it. He can afford it I suppose but do you think MC or JM can. A quick look at their assets suggest nothing on the level of Ken, not even close.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:09 pm  

I would not sell anything to invest in Trinity or any other business. I did however invest a small amount in shares at the club along with a good number of other supporters all of whom. Never expected a return.
The present management always said they would never speculate to accumulate a good few years ago but they have in youth. Surely a a small amount on promoting the club in the local area wouldn't break the bank and could show almost instant dividends. It could of course dive bomb
We will never know what a good targeted marketing campaign could achieve.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:41 pm  

I think this subject has come up a few times in the past KK, and apart from marketing via social media, is something that does let the club down, and in part I do agree.

Sadly, marketing, is in a way speculating to accumulate, which isn’t the Wakefield way. I did, back in 2016, send things through to both MC and CB, as to how they could possibly generate more revenue. It got a more positive response from CB to be fair, and he thought they could work. I even touched on having functions on in the week in the clubhouse, so that it could possibly make money 7 days a week. About the same time, I spoke with Dav Longo on some of these, as I was putting it all together, and again, he thought they were a goer. He said that he would be surprised if they got listened to.

However, like also stated, there is no substitute for success on the pitch. If we can get back where we were in 2017 and 2018 on the pitch, and keep that consistency, along with the stadium upgrade, then i think the crowds will steadily increase. It will take time though.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:41 pm  

There is a very simple idea that would cost very little to the Club and it involves every single fan becoming the marketing arm of the Club. Simply bring 1 newbie to a specified game. Someone completely new and ideally young. If we all did that it would cost us all £22 tops and we’d have a sellout crowd for one game. Would take all 4000 hardcore to buy into it for it to work. Then it would be up to the Club to make sure there was entertainment on and off the field that day. But with 4000 extras I’m sure they would then be happy to do something like little giveaways and make it memorable for everyone.

Re: Are Trinity becoming irrelevant? : Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:16 pm  

Success, success, success first then the stadium, I say this due to the fact that when we got to Wembley in 79, the amount of people that I knew that were going to the final then never to venture to BV after, then the semi against Hull at Donny, half of Horbury were chasing tickets again never to be seen at BV after the event. There must be hundreds of potential fans out there who just need that little nudge and I’m sure that bit of success will do it.