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Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:09 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Guess so!

Just what is the job description for a "Director of Rugby?" for 100+ years how did we manage to carry on without them?

Because for a hundred years we were a part time sport.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:19 pm  

There aren’t that many SL / NRL Head coaches jobs in the mix so I hope we would have plenty of interest.

I would much rather take on a man manager coach than someone with all the technical knowledge but can’t get a tune out of anything.

Happy to support whoever gets the role and I hope we don’t see the flak flying at someone before the ink has even dried on a contract.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:29 pm  

Cats13 wrote:

There aren’t that many SL / NRL Head coaches jobs in the mix so I hope we would have plenty of interest.

I would much rather take on a man manager coach than someone with all the technical knowledge but can’t get a tune out of anything.

Happy to support whoever gets the role and I hope we don’t see the flak flying at someone before the ink has even dried on a contract.

I'll set the tone 'A N Other out!'

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:57 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Because for a hundred years we were a part time sport.

Yes we were, PT, but that still doesn't tell me what their role is. It sounds very much like a term created to add a "name" to the staff roster, but does not have a definitive function within the organisation. Or has it replaced what was once referred to as club manager?

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:20 pm  

Apologies if it’s been mentioned elsewhere on the current coaching threads, but what’s happening now with the Five new signings. Gaskell is the only one so far confirmed. The other four I believe haven’t signed with Trinity. Does the temporary coach now conclude the signings, or does he want to choose his own players.? Nothing is ever straight forward with Trinity.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:25 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Yes we were, PT, but that still doesn't tell me what their role is. It sounds very much like a term created to add a "name" to the staff roster, but does not have a definitive function within the organisation. Or has it replaced what was once referred to as club manager?

The exact role is defined by the individual club. Basically it’s a middle man between the board and the coaching staff. Some are more office based dealing with contracts, signings etc, think Sinfield at Leeds or Wells at Cas whilst some are more tracksuit roles field roles, like John Kear was here. Either way they can be useful if the roles are clearly defined and the role suits the clubs need.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:28 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Apologies if it’s been mentioned elsewhere on the current coaching threads, but what’s happening now with the Five new signings. Gaskell is the only one so far confirmed. The other four I believe haven’t signed with Trinity. Does the temporary coach now conclude the signings, or does he want to choose his own players.? Nothing is ever straight forward with Trinity.

Guess it depends whether the ‘signings’ we actual signing or agreements like Chesters contract was and not yet concluded. I’d guess any new coach would want to mould his own team rather than have the budget chewed up for the next couple of years with Chesters signings so it could be a deciding factor to any prospective new coach.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:36 pm  

Redscat wrote:

I'd happily settle for Shaun Wane. I don't particularly like the guy or his over aggressive style of play, but he certainly knows how to get the best out of players. If it meant watching a winning team I'd overlook his faults.

You have to temper that with the fact that at Wigan he had a huge budget and a conveyor belt of talent - he won’t have that with us. It takes a certain kind of coach to run a club like ours, pure discipline and aggression won’t work. We have compromise players and need a compromise coach who can get the most from the type of players we have. Kear in other words.

The last coach we had who was similar to Wane was McNally and that eventually came a cropper in a big way after a great start.

That’s not to say I wouldn’t welcome Wane but he’s unproven as a lesser team coach so it would be a cautious welcome.

Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:39 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

The exact role is defined by the individual club. Basically it’s a middle man between the board and the coaching staff. Some are more office based dealing with contracts, signings etc, think Sinfield at Leeds or Wells at Cas whilst some are more tracksuit roles field roles, like John Kear was here. Either way they can be useful if the roles are clearly defined and the role suits the clubs need.

Thanks for that, Sacred. A bit of a loose term then. It seemed to me that when the term first became fashionable it appeared to be a way of sacking a staff member who was no longer useful in that position, but pushing them "upstairs" yet retaining their presence within the club.

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Re: New coach : Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:53 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Yes we were, PT, but that still doesn't tell me what their role is. It sounds very much like a term created to add a "name" to the staff roster, but does not have a definitive function within the organisation. Or has it replaced what was once referred to as club manager?

OK, I realise my answer was a bit flippant
Effectively the role of managing the team is bigger than it used to be.
They effectively split it so the coach is looking at strategy, game plan, assessing players, with his team of assistants.
The director or whatever title they give looks after contracts and agents and logistics of getting to grounds like Catalan that need something extra. I should think they manage the ground staff too.