Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:28 pm  

RWBA Wakefield Group wrote:

Only if there are 11 teams that score higher than Toulouse as well.

Thanks

So Superleague 2025 will be made up of all the A grades plus (up to 12 teams) the highest grading points scoring B grades irrespective of which league they were in in 2024.

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Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:48 pm  

Rhino at work wrote:

Thanks

So Superleague 2025 will be made up of all the A grades plus (up to 12 teams) the highest grading points scoring B grades irrespective of which league they were in in 2024.

Yes.

Effectively each year is assessed independently. If in 2025 we are in the top 12 clubs on IMG points, then we are in.
It's possible a team that doesn't achieve the points would drop out from the current 12. Doesn't have to be Toulouse.
And alternatively, 2 teams from championship could be promoted if they get the points.

6 or 7 can be confident they are in. Next 4 probably know but there's is up for grabs.

Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:49 pm  

Let’s all have a laugh at how successful we have been

Games. Won. Lost Win %. Points Diff
2021 - 25. 9. 15. 36. - 66
2022. 27. 10. 17. 37. - 151
2023. 27. 4. 27. 15. - 439

What a recent history of success, how proud you must be plus to pay so much but to be given so little in return. It would make you laugh if it wasn’t so serious

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Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:31 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Let’s all have a laugh at how successful we have been

Games. Won. Lost Win %. Points Diff
2021 - 25. 9. 15. 36. - 66
2022. 27. 10. 17. 37. - 151
2023. 27. 4. 27. 15. - 439

What a recent history of success, how proud you must be plus to pay so much but to be given so little in return. It would make you laugh if it wasn’t so serious

Who are you aiming that at?
No one is laughing about our performances. Some just realise it is hard work and a lot of money to lift out of it.

Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:38 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Yes.

Effectively each year is assessed independently. If in 2025 we are in the top 12 clubs on IMG points, then we are in.
It's possible a team that doesn't achieve the points would drop out from the current 12. Doesn't have to be Toulouse.
And alternatively, 2 teams from championship could be promoted if they get the points.

6 or 7 can be confident they are in. Next 4 probably know but theirs is up for grabs.

Just another thing I’m not sure of with IMG criteria. Next week we have London v Toulouse in the playoffs for SL, but after this season, a team doesn’t get into SL by winning the championship playoffs, so my question is, will there still be a championship top six playoff if the winner doesn’t automatically qualify for SL.

Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:59 pm  

I'm very skeptical about this rating system. I think London or Toulouse could play in a car park and IMG would probably give them more points than us next season to keep moving forward with the magical expansion.

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Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:06 pm  

18th Man wrote:

I'm very skeptical about this rating system. I think London or Toulouse could play in a car park and IMG would probably give them more points than us next season to keep moving forward with the magical expansion.

There's no 'giving points' The criteria is set.

And IMG only set the guidelines. RFL decide your score.

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Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:20 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Just another thing I’m not sure of with IMG criteria. Next week we have London v Toulouse in the playoffs for SL, but after this season, a team doesn’t get into SL by winning the championship playoffs, so my question is, will there still be a championship top six playoff if the winner doesn’t automatically qualify for SL.

Yes. Well for now but yes.

Winning the league and then the GF earns you IMG points.

For example. If you finish bottom of super league you get 2.77 points.
If you finish top of Championship you get 2.55 points.

But the championship side also has a chance of an extra 0.25 points for winning GF. So the playoffs are important to get a little lift over the lowest side in SL

- that's done over a 3 year average though.

Ironically, a team getting GF and promoted into SL, dropping back the year after and then getting GF again would have 2.86 points whereas the team who got 11th 3 years running would get 2.88.

Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pm  

In reply to PT those who find it funny about the implications of being relegated. I wonder how funny you would think it was if we didn’t now have the backing of Ellis and had to rely on the Chairman following the departure of our CEO.
I doubt when the incumbents put this squad together they did so knowing that a new owner was going to take over and save us from their on field decisions.

Re: Who won't be joining us : Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:49 pm  

Change the record please scarlet. It is getting really really old now. We already well know your thoughts probably better than yourself at this stage. Everyone is looking forward and moving on but you it seems.

I really hope this goes through so you can join us and share in some positivity.