Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:17 am  

PopTart wrote:

I've no doubt he'd give his all. I liked him a lot for exactly that.
But I don't think we forced him out. He went for a better offer.

That's not correct pop tart. He got made an offer from cas and he told wakefield and the club kept saying wel sort it with you. As the weeks went on milky then said if you don't want me or you don't sort my contract by this date then I'm off. The date passed so he signed for cas. A few days later the club wanted to negotiate with milky but it was too late he'd gave his word. The club then said to him will you stay we will ring cas and pay a fee. He not even left or played for them, looks like edging their bets to me

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:42 am  

I agree it was time to let Milky go, the 3 year deal from Cas was not something we should have been competing with. The mistake was not replacing him with a decent 6, everyone could see from the 2022 season that Gaskill was not a viable option. Personally I would leave Milky at Cas, their fans hate him, he is a huge drain on their finances, it is better for us going forward ( and always has been and forever will be ) if Cas struggle. Cas having to pay Milky £ 125,000 a year for the next two years is brilliant, Cas fans do know their rugby and they saw very quickly that Milky was not the answer. We should not do anything that helps Cas is anyway whatsoever and us taking Milky would be a massive help to them

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:42 am  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

I agree it was time to let Milky go, the 3 year deal from Cas was not something we should have been competing with. The mistake was not replacing him with a decent 6, everyone could see from the 2022 season that Gaskill was not a viable option. Personally I would leave Milky at Cas, their fans hate him, he is a huge drain on their finances, it is better for us going forward ( and always has been and forever will be ) if Cas struggle. Cas having to pay Milky £ 125,000 a year for the next two years is brilliant, Cas fans do know their rugby and they saw very quickly that Milky was not the answer. We should not do anything that helps Cas is anyway whatsoever and us taking Milky would be a massive help to them

Spot on mate!

[PopTart]

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:48 am  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

That's not correct pop tart. He got made an offer from cas and he told wakefield and the club kept saying wel sort it with you. As the weeks went on milky then said if you don't want me or you don't sort my contract by this date then I'm off. The date passed so he signed for cas. A few days later the club wanted to negotiate with milky but it was too late he'd gave his word. The club then said to him will you stay we will ring cas and pay a fee. He not even left or played for them, looks like edging their bets to me

They key bit you are missing is that he got a higher offer from Cas and we weren't wanting to pay that.
They may have reacted too late to up the offer but he went for the money, otherwise he'd have stayed on our base offer.
I don't necessarily blame him. He has a family and he is working for money same as the rest of us.
But that's not quite the same as him wanting to stay and we didn't want him.

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:23 am  

PopTart wrote:

They key bit you are missing is that he got a higher offer from Cas and we weren't wanting to pay that.
They may have reacted too late to up the offer but he went for the money, otherwise he'd have stayed on our base offer.
I don't necessarily blame him. He has a family and he is working for money same as the rest of us.
But that's not quite the same as him wanting to stay and we didn't want him.

I gave you the facts pop tart if you choose to twist and turn them to suit your narrative then that's up to you. Things have moved on from all the doom and gloom of the past, embrace it.

[PopTart]

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:17 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

I gave you the facts pop tart if you choose to twist and turn them to suit your narrative then that's up to you. Things have moved on from all the doom and gloom of the past, embrace it.

I really don't understand why you don't get why getting the details right is important but whatever. Its in the past as you say.

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:19 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

I gave you the facts pop tart if you choose to twist and turn them to suit your narrative then that's up to you. Things have moved on from all the doom and gloom of the past, embrace it.

You need to write in "CAPS" for it to be facts

[PopTart]

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:20 pm  

Seems a strange thread for all this angst when the original post seems to be so random at best.

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:33 pm  

We have to remember where we are: the Championship. He's an old head in a side that will have some young players, and he'll be perfect at that level

Re: Milky : Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:34 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

We have to remember where we are: the Championship. He's an old head in a side that will have some young players, and he'll be perfect at that level

Not as old as a lot of them