Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:26 am  

wtid71 wrote:

Box is to make a statement today

I can hardly wait

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:33 am  

Fordy wrote:

So comparing our 2 "perfect" agreements:

Castleford - Developer agrees to transfer freehold of the stadium land to Castleford Tigers for £1
Wakefield - Developer retains freehold of land

Castleford - Stadium will be managed and run by Castleford Tigers entitling them to the full benefit of revenue streams from matchdays and conference/hospitality facilities
Wakefield - Stadium will be leased and managed by Rodney's Trust at a peppercorn rent. Trust will then lease stadium to Wakefield Trinity for a commercial rent and they will have no access to revenue streams from conference/hospitality

Castleford - Stadium to be built and handed over prior to any retail unit being opened to trade (I couldn't find a specific trigger point linked to quantity/footage of retail units)
Wakefield - Stadium to be built when developer has assessed viability of housing, received planning permission for said housing and built sufficient quantity (no reference to what constitutes sufficient quantity)

And many others but these conditions show the intentions of developer and his mates.

Time Councillor Box grew a pair and put the Castleford s106 in front of Mackie and said this is what you need to provide or else we are revoking any planning permission you will ever receive

Chalk and Cheese.

One agreement has been drafted to deliver the other one has been drafted not to deliver a stadium but still make some people very happy.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:42 am  

jakeyg95 wrote:

According to the council website their surgery is at 6pm on Thursday in Stanley Community Centre so I think I'll go ask them face to face and see for myself if they're just fobbing us all off.

Be very rude of me not to pop along as well seeing as it's 2 mins from my house.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:53 am  

Fordy wrote:

So comparing our 2 "perfect" agreements:

Castleford - Developer agrees to transfer freehold of the stadium land to Castleford Tigers for £1
Wakefield - Developer retains freehold of land

Castleford - Stadium will be managed and run by Castleford Tigers entitling them to the full benefit of revenue streams from matchdays and conference/hospitality facilities
Wakefield - Stadium will be leased and managed by Rodney's Trust at a peppercorn rent. Trust will then lease stadium to Wakefield Trinity for a commercial rent and they will have no access to revenue streams from conference/hospitality

Castleford - Stadium to be built and handed over prior to any retail unit being opened to trade (I couldn't find a specific trigger point linked to quantity/footage of retail units)
Wakefield - Stadium to be built when developer has assessed viability of housing, received planning permission for said housing and built sufficient quantity (no reference to what constitutes sufficient quantity)

And many others but these conditions show the intentions of developer and his mates.

Time Councillor Box grew a pair and put the Castleford s106 in front of Mackie and said this is what you need to provide or else we are revoking any planning permission you will ever receive

Excellent post Fordy

The reality will be that Box will take Mackie out for a business lunch (on expenses, obviously, that we will pay for) and they will agree that Mackie will then take several months re-considering his terms and conditions and will then come back with slightly more favourable terms and conditions, which once again will be totally unacceptable to the club. This will continue ad-infinitum until we are playing in the Sunday League in Thornes Park.

Mackie will then be granted freedom of the Town of Castleford.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:05 am  

JINJER wrote:

Just read that bull sheet again and my blood is boiling. It all seems so childish. It almost looks like a case of "we've got a good thing going here, We've got away with it once we can do these again, let's do this again while we're on a roll".

And with an ever-crumbling Belle Vue and stadia requirements set by the RFL, they know they haven't got long to hold out.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:10 am  

Just watching box give statement at cabinet meeting...said he has meeting with club today..the proposal from york court it totaly unacceptable. And york court need to walk away from wakefield as they have no interest in the city or interest in building a stadium...box said they would be looking for a new developer to step in....hopefully no new planning anywhere for yorkcourt ..

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:17 am  

The only way for the council to come out of this with any credibility is to do what MC suggested and finance the community stadium like Leeds CC are doing with headingley lending the money but getting it back with interest. Everyone's a winner and saves it from going to court.

Up the Trin

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 am  

Be nice if he would add....."Walker has no mandate or authority whatsoever, his involvement has been a disaster, the council will refuse to involve him and will only deal with the legitimate trust"...or words to that effect.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:21 am  

Is this Box just playing his usual game of politics and trying to appear to be the good guy, or has he finally grown a pair ???
I know which one I think it is !!
In the highly unlikely event that it is the latter, then Mackie should be made to stump up the 6 million that I believe he offered to contribute earlier this year, otherwise he will not be granted planning permission to build anything else at Newmarket or anywhere else within the district.

Re: Newmarket 'new' Heads of Terms Document : Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:25 am  

Just another delaying tactic, once again actions speak louder than words councillor Box !!!