Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:29 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum

I like this bit! The reality is that the council itself is run by a minority of 1. Sure there are elections, but in this authority Labour will always win and, to be a Labour councillor you need to be a Labour member. Then you are vetted by Mrs Box. Then when you are elected you are appointed to a position in cabinet by, erm, Mr Box! There is no room for dissention, only room for those who tow the line.

But if you want to talk statistics, what about the promise to 15,000+ people who's support allowed a developer to make a Kings ransom from a piece of GB land that remain unfulfilled because the council were either too weak, or incompetent, or worse, to make him deliver!

This is about justice and fairness - are you with us or agin us? Make your mind up!

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:23 pm  

It’s the hysteria on the forum I struggle with. You may be right about the secrecy of the council but how many times were we promised updates only for nothing to be forthcoming. Those in the know were quite happy to continue to withhold information from those they were suppose to be representing.
I ask if the chairman of the trust at the time RW was made aware of certain elements of the deal by the council could it not be argued that his failure to pass this on does not detract from the fact that the council did keep the trust up to date.
I really do hope you win but I am also aware of what could happen if it fails.

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Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:33 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It’s the hysteria on the forum I struggle with. You may be right about the secrecy of the council but how many times were we promised updates only for nothing to be forthcoming. Those in the know were quite happy to continue to withhold information from those they were suppose to be representing.
I ask if the chairman of the trust at the time RW was made aware of certain elements of the deal by the council could it not be argued that his failure to pass this on does not detract from the fact that the council did keep the trust up to date.
I really do hope you win but I am also aware of what could happen if it fails.

Surely you mean WE Scarlet?

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:40 pm  

I think that's what WE call a Freudian slip

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:23 am  

You in the terms of the club and trust, they made the decisions to follow the current course. I don’t use we because it isn’t a decision I think will be successful.
I suppose if the supporters had been consulted then you could say we.

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Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:39 am  

How tedious you are being SP - really tedious.

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:57 am  

One sad, sad individual.

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:16 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It’s the hysteria on the forum I struggle with. You may be right about the secrecy of the council but how many times were we promised updates only for nothing to be forthcoming. Those in the know were quite happy to continue to withhold information from those they were suppose to be representing.
I ask if the chairman of the trust at the time RW was made aware of certain elements of the deal by the council could it not be argued that his failure to pass this on does not detract from the fact that the council did keep the trust up to date.
I really do hope you win but I am also aware of what could happen if it fails.

I would strongly refute that suggestion - in fact it would appear that in fact RW was more representing the council and the developers than he was the Trust, the Club or the People who supported this! He took the job having been requested by the council and he has remained, right up to now, acting on their behalf. He betrayed us - he betrayed me, and I cannot ever forgive him that after I, incorrectly, gave him more credit and was responsible, in part, for giving him the leash he used to strangle us! I made him aware of this upon his announcement of resignation and I am wholly in line with the club when I say that he can play no part in this process or anything that relates to the Community Stadium or the club.

He'd that information been passed beyond RW we would have acted, but we were not told. RW even at one stage, after dodging the question 3 times previously, suggested that 'as I told you earlier'. The guy has lost all of my respect! In summary, the Trust under his term was very much "him and us".

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:45 am  

It is not me you have to convince but the court that the notification to the Trust chairman is not considered notifications to the trust. The fact he declined to pass the details to the other Trust members is I agree unforgivable but he knew and by virtue of his position could it be argued the Trust knew.
I hope that an agreement can be reached without going to court.

Re: Slagging off the council etc. : Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:55 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It is not me you have to convince but the court that the notification to the Trust chairman is not considered notifications to the trust. The fact he declined to pass the details to the other Trust members is I agree unforgivable but he knew and by virtue of his position could it be argued the Trust knew.
I hope that an agreement can be reached without going to court.

This is far from being the only wrong here. But I have probably already said more than I should at this time!