Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:01 am  

Redscat wrote:

but ever since a certain female (?) prime minister of the eighties who instilled into the businesses of this country that greed was the new God and to make as much money for yourself and stuff the rest of us

Not sure what Thatcher has to do with all this unless you want to turn this into another political thingy, I'm sure she made mistakes like all other PM's of both parties, but I remember her best for letting my mam and dad and a lot more people of Wakefield buy their own homes

See what you've done here, you've brought politics into what was an interesting thread.

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:35 am  

little wayne69 wrote:

Not sure what Thatcher has to do with all this unless you want to turn this into another political thingy, I'm sure she made mistakes like all other PM's of both parties, but I remember her best for letting my mam and dad and a lot more people of Wakefield buy their own homes

See what you've done here, you've brought politics into what was an interesting thread.

was a quick way of off loading property that some needed renovating building up coffers for the government with no long term thought for the future hence why our kids now have about no chance of owning property or even afford renting them

just watched a neighbour have their house a new roof, insulation and kitchen for them to buy the house after the work was done by the council at a cheap price as they have lived there for yrs, didn't want to buy it before the work was done says it all

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:35 am  

wakefieldwall wrote:

On a more serious note – I tend to agree with Vastman. They are a shonky operators chancing their arm – MC, the trust etc may well feel the time is right for the legal route and I’d back that.

This lumps huge pressure on the council leadership now if the national press show a wider interest. I fancy Box and co-consipirators on the council will jump soon sadly they’ll be taking nice public pensions with them when some might suggest a bit of prison time was more appropriate.

Although the recent failed coup will ensure a higher level of scrutiny in our leader's actions, the very fact that it failed and that there have been a couple of resignations, probably strengthens his hand, in the short term, as the incomers will toe the party line and wont want to rock the boat.
Unless the press really got stuck into this whole sorry mess, Box wont be jumping anywhere. He'll more likely be sat back in his big leather chair feeling smug at another coup foiled.

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:37 am  

Courtesy of Bob Dylan:

M62 Revisited

Oh, Rod said to Colin, “Find me some land”
Col said, “Man, it’ll cost you a grand”
Rod said, “No” Col say, “What?”
Rod say, “You can do what you want, Col, but
The next time you see me comin’, you better run”
Well, Col said, “Where d’you want this buildin’ done?”
Rod said, “Out on the M621”

Well, Colin Mackie, he had a brilliant plan
To build a big white box on green belt land
He asked Peter Box, “Where can I go?”
Peter Box said, “There’s only one place I know”
Colin said, “Tell me quick, man, I got to stay alive”
Oh, Peter just pointed at a quarter to five
And said, “That way, down the B6135”

Well, Michael Carter said to Manni Hussain
“I really don’t know where we’re going to be playing
I’ve got a good team but nowhere to play in
Do you know where I can get a new stadium?”
And Manni Hussain said, “Let me think for a minute, son”
Then he said, “Yes, I think it can be easily done
Just take everything down to Featherstone”

Now, Mary Creagh on the twelfth night
Told Wakefield Council that things weren’t right
“Your big white box,” she says, “is much too white”
Peter Box said, “Come here and step into the light”
Peter Box said, “Hmm, you’re right, let me tell Colin Mackie this is not on”
But Colin Mackie was with Eric the Tonne
And they were Brentwood bound on the A1

Now, Ralph Rimmer he was very bored
Trying to create a rugby league war
He phoned Eddie Hearn who nearly fell off the floor
He said, “I never engaged in this kind of thing before
But yes, I think it will be very easy to do
We’ll just stock up on lager, with champagne for you
And head out West on the M62”

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:35 am  

Redscat wrote:

Don't quite agree Vasty. I've no quaims about the small businessman who makes enough for a nice house, nice car and nice holiday, but ever since a certain female (?) prime minister of the eighties who instilled into the businesses of this country that greed was the new God and to make as much money for yourself and stuff the rest of us, then this has become the mantra for large businesses, and manifests itself in the Yorkcourts, 88Ms and Rodney Myersdcough Walkers of this world . Wakefield Trinity RLFC and the citizens of Wakefield are the ones who suffer whilst they count the pound notes.
As for being "Unlucky at every turn", Vasty, luck has not come into it . It's all been a very cleverly construed conspiracy to make vast amounts of money out of thee and me and 340,000 others.

Well lets ignore your relentlessly left wing political mumbo jumbo, if that's what you believe then fine.

However regarding luck you're utterly wrong. Remember I was in this right at the start 1n 2004 and I know the full set of events better than most.

You're are correct in that he Yorkcourt has been a set up from day one. Even then though we were unlucky, in the panic of losing the Thornes project Ted panicked and got in bed with the first developer to show an interest - he was unlucky that the first responder was Yorkcourt.

There were other issues regarding Thornes and I can't guarantee that it would have happened however there is no doubt that had the 2008/9 financial crash not have taken place for just another year or so it might have. Once that happened we were stuffed with and I can't blame Box for that, just bad timing.

In 2010 when franchising was the be all and end all Ted used the ground as insurance to loan money to bring the ground up to scratch. He had little choice to be honest even if he did it in a typically underhand way. The bad luck wasn't that Ted then couldn't afford to buy it back as planned. The bad luck was that the following year franchising was scrapped and all the money wasted on meeting some very silly requirements need not have been spent, just like the the RFL pulled the rug and we'd lost the ground for a fad.

Then Over comes in and instead of doing the obvious thing and securing the ground back he wastes a fortune on TV adds and other nonsense.

As a club we have not helped ourselves but.... I can't think of a single lucky break regarding the actual ground we have had in the past 14 years, not one.

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:41 am  

vastman wrote:

Well lets ignore your relentlessly left wing political mumbo jumbo, if that's what you believe then fine.

However regarding luck you're utterly wrong. Remember I was in this right at the start 1n 2004 and I know the full set of events better than most.

You're are correct in that he Yorkcourt has been a set up from day one. Even then though we were unlucky, in the panic of losing the Thornes project Ted panicked and got in bed with the first developer to show an interest - he was unlucky that the first responder was Yorkcourt.

There were other issues regarding Thornes and I can't guarantee that it would have happened however there is no doubt that had the 2008/9 financial crash not have taken place for just another year or so it might have. Once that happened we were stuffed with and I can't blame Box for that, just bad timing.

In 2010 when franchising was the be all and end all Ted used the ground as insurance to loan money to bring the ground up to scratch. He had little choice to be honest even if he did it in a typically underhand way. The bad luck wasn't that Ted then couldn't afford to buy it back as planned. The bad luck was that the following year franchising was scrapped and all the money wasted on meeting some very silly requirements need not have been spent, just like the the RFL pulled the rug and we'd lost the ground for a fad.

Then Over comes in and instead of doing the obvious thing and securing the ground back he wastes a fortune on TV adds and other nonsense.

As a club we have not helped ourselves but.... I can't think of a single lucky break regarding the actual ground we have had in the past 14 years, not one.

I thought it was glover that wasted the money on TV ads not ted?

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:27 am  

snowie wrote:

I thought it was glover that wasted the money on TV ads not ted?

Vasty's chubby fingers missed the "Gl"

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:41 am  

snowie wrote:

I thought it was glover that wasted the money on TV ads not ted?

Yeah it was.

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:47 am  

Is the planning meeting today?

Re: We are not getting a penny say yorkcourts solicitiors : Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:04 pm  

Andrea Jenkyns objects.