I remember a famous rugby league club had a similar bar but sadly the stand it was situated under had to be demolished due to the construction materials used.
The old West Stand, always a busy walking behind it swapping ends at half time.
The old West Stand, always a busy walking behind it swapping ends at half time.
Off topic I know, but it brought back memories. I remember those days as a lad, smelling the wintergreen when the changing rooms were there before it became a bar. My Auntie used to run the bar, and also a couple of pubs in Wakefield at one time. That tunnel behind the stand must have cost the old club some money, as I recall the old season tickets were just a folded card, I would often see some men pass their card through the bars on the wall to someone on the outside to gain entry. I was only a youngster at the time didn’t really know how to report it.
I imagine the days of changing ends has gone now. I don't know any stadium that would allow for that these days. In theory you can at Wakefield as you are just walking up and down either the East or West terrace as there is no South terrace to change to.
I imagine new stadium would have an away end/side with no movement.
Having read the McD's website regarding franchising, I'd say the investment required for a new build franchise would be substantial, they are quoting 100k plus needed to managed a franchise and as they are the sole supplier no cost cutting allowed, pretty much a 'tied' business. How successful it would be in drawing business in on non match days is questionable, two of the Wakefield ones are on retail sites. Perhaps better looking at better quality and a better range of grab and go food and a move away from the boring burger. A decent sized stadium will not leave much room for retail services such as Aldi/Lidl
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Can we say that Yorkcourt have contributed nil,zilch and fa to the redevelopment
I suppose you could argue that the fuss around the Yorkcourt issue eventually compelled the Council to do something to assist the club, so indirectly their presence assisted more than if they had never been a factor, but that is a very charitable interpretation. Impossible to know what would have happened, once Thornes Park hit the buffers, if Yorkcourt had never been interested in land near the motorway. Maybe a worse fate.
Having read the McD's website regarding franchising, I'd say the investment required for a new build franchise would be substantial, they are quoting 100k plus needed to managed a franchise and as they are the sole supplier no cost cutting allowed, pretty much a 'tied' business. How successful it would be in drawing business in on non match days is questionably, two of the Wakefield ones are on retail sites. Perhaps better looking at better quality and a better range of grab and go food and a move away from the boring burger. A decent sized stadium will not leave much room for retail services such as Aldi/Lidl
There is a really good film starring Michael Keaton about the true story of the McDonalds franchise, the name of which escapes me, but the turning point for the company is when it is pointed out to the boss that they are not a burger company but a real estate company. They make their money from land, not burgers. They just lease it to franchise holders, who then have to comply with various rules, although they do promise not to allow another franchise within a certain radius.
The worst franchise to have is Subway, apparently, as they will sell you a franchise on one corner, but if a better site becomes available across the road, they'll sell that to another franchise holder.
Having read the McD's website regarding franchising, I'd say the investment required for a new build franchise would be substantial, they are quoting 100k plus needed to managed a franchise and as they are the sole supplier no cost cutting allowed, pretty much a 'tied' business. How successful it would be in drawing business in on non match days is questionable, two of the Wakefield ones are on retail sites. Perhaps better looking at better quality and a better range of grab and go food and a move away from the boring burger. A decent sized stadium will not leave much room for retail services such as Aldi/Lidl
Two points.
One, is 100k that pricy when compared to setting up and running our own in-house food outlet? An outlet with no real presence that will possibly only be operational during matchdays and a limited number of events. This opposed to an operation that will run 24/7 and will almost certainly be profitable, especially as we are its landlord.
Two, far be it from me to espouse the McDonalds menu but I doubt there is a better range out there and it's far from boring burgers. Obviously, there are burger and fries but there are also wraps, icecreams, sweet pastries and yes even salads!!! Plus a large range of hot and cold non-alcoholic beverages.
I've been to many many stadiums in the UK and I'm yet to find a single one that offers such choice to its non-hspitality guests, not even close and certainly not for the same value for money.
Best of all McDonalds don't do beer, leaving this most profitable and easy to manage revenue stream totally under the control of the club.
Obviously, you can substitute the above with Burger King or KFC if you wish as they all sell the kind of tucker RL fans want rather than what you think they should have. I just picked McDonald's because they are the market leaders, other than that I have no vested interest.
One, is 100k that pricy when compared to setting up and running our own in-house food outlet? An outlet with no real presence that will possibly only be operational during matchdays and a limited number of events. This opposed to an operation that will run 24/7 and will almost certainly be profitable, especially as we are its landlord.
Two, far be it from me to espouse the McDonalds menu but I doubt there is a better range out there and it's far from boring burgers. Obviously, there are burger and fries but there are also wraps, icecreams, sweet pastries and yes even salads!!! Plus a large range of hot and cold non-alcoholic beverages.
I've been to many many stadiums in the UK and I'm yet to find a single one that offers such choice to its non-hspitality guests, not even close and certainly not for the same value for money.
Best of all McDonalds don't do beer, leaving this most profitable and easy to manage revenue stream totally under the control of the club.
Obviously, you can substitute the above with Burger King or KFC if you wish as they all sell the kind of tucker RL fans want rather than what you think they should have. I just picked McDonald's because they are the market leaders, other than that I have no vested interest.
Again, just a thought.
McD's make the money, the franchisee earns it, all food, packaging, training, uniforms, consumables all bought from McDs. Prices set by McD's even charge the Franchisee for advertising. Running costs pretty high profits can be decent but needs some work and strong footfall. The bigger new stadiums are providing more choice no reason for others not to break the mold and offer something different McD's provides more than burgers but its a standard menu nationwide, being different can be good he who dares Rodders!!!
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