Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:49 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Nah. That means one side losing face.

Yep, it's gone too far it would seem, can't see it myself sadly.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:58 pm  

Sad to see Ryan go but tbh I had a feeling after last seasons will he won't he stay, then he ended up signing just a years contract that we'd go through this again. Unfortunate but as far as getting value for money these last few years, I can't argue with how MC's balanced the books.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:08 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Just seen a tweet from Ryan, stating the first he heard about not staying at the club was on social media. Putting all of this aside for a minute, I find that a little bit poor from the club if that is the case.

He knew he didn't have a contract to stay at the club as he hadn't agreed it. So I would say he's the first to know.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:11 pm  

Ryan was fortunate not to be one of the 22 players who suffered major injury this season and his versatility enabled him to be selected for every game. The problem is that his game management should have become good enough to push past Brough and claim the No7 for himself but despite Brough's poor season and injury, Ryan hasn't been able to do that.
He has been good enough to push Jowitt out but that must have been a fine call, balancing Max's safety at the back and better passing game against Ryan's fleet footedness and eye for a gap. Even then, we brought in Escare on loan and he pushed Ryan onto the wing. If Tom Johnstone hadn't picked up the long term injury, there wouldn't have been a vacancy to play him on the wing so he might not have made that many regular starts.
Overall he is replaceable within our squad but we are still crying out for the halfback to push past Brough and without him we are probably in for another rudderless season.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:19 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I disagree, I think it may have been very disruptive constantly having a player moaning that he deserves more than he's been offered by the club, especially after he turned down the original offer months ago and then left it to drag on with the constant snipes at the club.

It's obvious that he is being poorly managed by his agent who has set him up to fail. He's a decent enough player, and in years to come could be excellent, but at this point in his career, he's not one I think we'll miss all that much

I can promise you that you couldn’t be more wrong on all counts.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:38 pm  

Seen Ryan getting a bit of stick on social media for saying “we’re all bits of meat in this game”. Can anyone explain why this is offensive? Not about Wakefield at all just a comment about RL players in general which it would be hard to argue with.

This whole situation is depressing, feel Rocky was poorly advised to ignore the original offer, and the club probably did the right thing signing walker at that time. Although if the club really wanted to keep him I’m sure they would have had a sit down with him and his agent at that time, rather than issuing a contract offer that expires at the end of the month and that being the end of it. Also don’t see rocky as the bad guy for wanting a bit more money, he knows what everyone else is earning and can benchmark himself appropriately. It’s a short career and he’s coming into his prime so would be hoping for a decent contract.
I know we’re not meant to get into contracts on here but I’ve heard from a couple of reliable sources that Koppy is on £90k a year, also know that Rocky was not asking for that much so it’s not like he was asking to be the highest paid player.
Problem is now we’ve signed Walker he’s gonna be a utility back or cover for halfback, in which case it’s hard for the club to justify a high wage.

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Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:42 pm  

RWB wrote:

Seen Ryan getting a bit of stick on social media for saying “we’re all bits of meat in this game”. Can anyone explain why this is offensive? Not about Wakefield at all just a comment about RL players in general which it would be hard to argue with.

This whole situation is depressing, feel Rocky was poorly advised to ignore the original offer, and the club probably did the right thing signing walker at that time. Although if the club really wanted to keep him I’m sure they would have had a sit down with him and his agent at that time, rather than issuing a contract offer that expires at the end of the month and that being the end of it. Also don’t see rocky as the bad guy for wanting a bit more money, he knows what everyone else is earning and can benchmark himself appropriately. It’s a short career and he’s coming into his prime so would be hoping for a decent contract.
I know we’re not meant to get into contracts on here but I’ve heard from a couple of reliable sources that Koppy is on £90k a year, also know that Rocky was not asking for that much so it’s not like he was asking to be the highest paid player.
Problem is now we’ve signed Walker he’s gonna be a utility back or cover for halfback, in which case it’s hard for the club to justify a high wage.

If you know you are not meant to talk contract money, why then do so?

The fact that you've herd those numbers doesn't make it true.

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:51 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

I can promise you that you couldn’t be more wrong on all counts.

I rather doubt you can promise a single thing

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:56 pm  

RWB wrote:

Seen Ryan getting a bit of stick on social media for saying “we’re all bits of meat in this game”. Can anyone explain why this is offensive? Not about Wakefield at all just a comment about RL players in general which it would be hard to argue with.

This whole situation is depressing, feel Rocky was poorly advised to ignore the original offer, and the club probably did the right thing signing walker at that time. Although if the club really wanted to keep him I’m sure they would have had a sit down with him and his agent at that time, rather than issuing a contract offer that expires at the end of the month and that being the end of it. Also don’t see rocky as the bad guy for wanting a bit more money, he knows what everyone else is earning and can benchmark himself appropriately. It’s a short career and he’s coming into his prime so would be hoping for a decent contract.
I know we’re not meant to get into contracts on here but I’ve heard from a couple of reliable sources that Koppy is on £90k a year, also know that Rocky was not asking for that much so it’s not like he was asking to be the highest paid player.
Problem is now we’ve signed Walker he’s gonna be a utility back or cover for halfback, in which case it’s hard for the club to justify a high wage.

recipe for disaster when salaries are branded about it only fetches unrest and disrupts the working environment, I've worked with others that have had bigger pay packages and was less skillful and had less responsibilities than me in the past and it hard to work in team when this happens

Re: Hampshire doesn’t have a club : Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:00 pm  

FSW wrote:

Ryan was fortunate not to be one of the 22 players who suffered major injury this season and his versatility enabled him to be selected for every game. The problem is that his game management should have become good enough to push past Brough and claim the No7 for himself but despite Brough's poor season and injury, Ryan hasn't been able to do that.
He has been good enough to push Jowitt out but that must have been a fine call, balancing Max's safety at the back and better passing game against Ryan's fleet footedness and eye for a gap. Even then, we brought in Escare on loan and he pushed Ryan onto the wing. If Tom Johnstone hadn't picked up the long term injury, there wouldn't have been a vacancy to play him on the wing so he might not have made that many regular starts.
Overall he is replaceable within our squad but we are still crying out for the halfback to push past Brough and without him we are probably in for another rudderless season.

/This for me sums it all up