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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:53 pm  
MC is no dummy and without his timely intervention at our club I seriously doubt we’d have a club that looks anything like the team that will be running out in a few short weeks.Football is indeed awash with money at every level so why not tap into this income stream for the good of the greater cause .Beggars can’t be chooses and I’m all for getting more sports involved down at belle vue if it involves extra revenue and potentially new fans .
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:02 pm  
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I'm struggling to work out how any connection to Wakefield FC could ruffle any feathers as the club would have the option of not stocking their produce. The presence of Wakefield FC produce suggests that feathers are not ruffled at all.

My only concern of any rise of Wakefield FC would be the Wakefield public getting a choice of how to support their city in sport and them choosing football over rugby, but then again that's a matter for the game as a whole.

Agree, I don't get the connection either, does he even have anything at all to do with the football? because I've never heard it before. Also MC spoke about the link ups being positive for the general Community aspect of the stadium, along with the other ones. The blokes turned into the proverbial bogeyman, we get some news about the stadium pressing ahead and planning ready to go in etc and then Walker's name pops up. He's nearly 80 now isn't he.
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:31 pm  
Slugger McBatt wrote:
I'm struggling to work out how any connection to Wakefield FC could ruffle any feathers as the club would have the option of not stocking their produce. The presence of Wakefield FC produce suggests that feathers are not ruffled at all.

My only concern of any rise of Wakefield FC would be the Wakefield public getting a choice of how to support their city in sport and them choosing football over rugby, but then again that's a matter for the game as a whole.

I’m only guessing here, but RW is behind the football club, if said football club managed to access grants for say £2M, then surely the football club would want/demand a fair share of the ground so ultimately Trinity wouldn’t own the ground 100%.
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:40 pm  
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I’m only guessing here, but RW is behind the football club, if said football club managed to access grants for say £2M, then surely the football club would want/demand a fair share of the ground so ultimately Trinity wouldn’t own the ground 100%.

Is there anything to stop Trinity applying for a football grant given the game could be played their, especially with the affiliated ladies team also
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:14 pm  
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Is there anything to stop Trinity applying for a football grant given the game could be played their, especially with the affiliated ladies team also

Not sure KK, I'm sure others will know better than us.
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:13 pm  
Wakefield FC is a Trojan Horse, designed for someone I find unsavoury, to get their hands on BV.

I am sure Mr. Carter knows what he's doing, but like some others on here, I am uncomfortable with any form of relationship with them.
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:17 pm  
dboy wrote:
Wakefield FC is a Trojan Horse, designed for someone I find unsavoury, to get their hands on BV.

I am sure Mr. Carter knows what he's doing, but like some others on here, I am uncomfortable with any form of relationship with them.

Exactly my thoughts on this.
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:03 pm  
dboy wrote:
Wakefield FC is a Trojan Horse, designed for someone I find unsavoury, to get their hands on BV.

I am sure Mr. Carter knows what he's doing, but like some others on here, I am uncomfortable with any form of relationship with them.


See this is the bit I don't get, this is the paranoia that others I expect are referring too.

No offence dboy but your argument seems flawed IMHO.

For a start we don't own BV in any real sense, nor does it currently have any real value as either an RL ground or a football ground. If we had no mortgage on it, which I assume is a 100% and that at least some of it was up to any decent standard then yes it might be a gamble to let others in but it isn't. It's actually a dump that we paid over the odds for and requires millions spending on it just to be half-decent, we quite literally have nothing to lose because if it doesn't become half decent and soon we will be kicked out of SL and we will die anyway.

With that in mind, why would Wakefield FC or RW even need a Trojan horse? Also, BV has been available for purchase for more or less the last ten years so if RW had wanted it to develop BV for Wakefield FC he could have bought it at any time and simply kicked us out or milked us as tenants. They didn't need WTRLFC to do that did they, so where is the advantage in doing now when Trinity has a bit more of a hold on the stadium rather than less, it makes no sense.

I have no issue with you regarding Walker, I find him odious and his practices dubious a lot of the time, however like many others I don't see the issue as regards Wakefield FC with or without RW.

Let be honest, there is no way a struggling club in a struggling sport like RL could by itself develop BV, we just don't have the cash or the access to borrow it, that's a fact and in that respect, we are fairly stuffed as far as I can see.

We will need the support of others to do it and in return, they will want their piece of flesh and if Wakefield FC backed by RW is where that support is coming from then so be it, personally I can't see any option. As I said before if you can then my ears are open.

At the end of the day if we pay for the land and the rest pay for the stadium and we end up as say a 50% shareholder then is that so bad. So long as we don't lose our ability to influence the way BV is run and thus our right to be there at a fair rate then fine, why not? In truth, if the stadium were converted into an Ltd company with a BOD including one from Trinity we would only need 31% of the shares to be able to block anything we didn't like (that's how I understand corporate law, others may know differently).

The 30% theoretically is quite important for another reason. The cost of buying the ground at a rough guess would be around 30% of the eventual cost of a full revamp of BV. Just a thought. Basically I'm struggling to see the conspiracy :D
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:29 pm  
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Nice try Rodney. You're not fooling anyone! :lol:
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Re: Ground : Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:14 pm  
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I've never been so insulted in all my life :shock: Still it's a change from vastman.
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