Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:55 pm  

FIL wrote:

As I said earlier, IMHO Sam Williams could be that man ??
He isn't getting a gig at the Raiders at the moment and could he potentially be interested in coming back to us if he is more or less guaranteed the no. 7 shirt ??

we need a damn sight more than him I’m afraid we can’t defend any part of the field and concede nearly 30 a game so to even win we’ve to get more than 30 and hope for the best. It’s just soul destroying at the moment

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:58 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

we need a damn sight more than him I’m afraid we can’t defend any part of the field and concede nearly 30 a game so to even win we’ve to get more than 30 and hope for the best. It’s just soul destroying at the moment

The stat the commentator made on the OurLeague app summed it up, in 6 games we've conceded over 200 points, with a reply of just over 70!

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:08 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

id check the stats if I was you 21 tackles and 1 miss more than a half the forwards so hardly shirt tugging.

If you re read his post the shirt tugging isn’t aimed at rocky
He just says he’s a stand off or full back which I absolutely agree with, I think most of the forum agree with that

Is rocky your son out of interest?

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:15 pm  

musson wrote:

If you re read his post the shirt tugging isn’t aimed at rocky
He just says he’s a stand off or full back which I absolutely agree with, I think most of the forum agree with that

Is rocky your son out of interest?

Yes Ryan is but I was making a point back on the comment. By moving Ryan to half back under the way we play we have lost all his attacking ability and pace, this coach is making players look completely stupid and I mean all of them

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:21 pm  

FIL wrote:

As I said earlier, IMHO Sam Williams could be that man ??
He isn't getting a gig at the Raiders at the moment and could he potentially be interested in coming back to us if he is more or less guaranteed the no. 7 shirt ??

I wouldn’t disagree with that
Sam is a good player without being spectacular and as you say not getting near the raiders team
Not surprising considering whiten and williams who are absolutely on fire

My only concern there would be his kicking game and is it good enough

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:30 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

Yes Ryan is but I was making a point back on the comment. By moving Ryan to half back under the way we play we have lost all his attacking ability and pace, this coach is making players look completely stupid and I mean all of them

Completely agree with that also on Ryan he’s being asked to play a position that doesn’t suite his strengths
I prefer Ryan at fb for what my opinion is worth

I do think Chester has no idea what to do with the spine the team
There is far too much chopping and changing
Especially scrum half and full back

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:34 pm  

musson wrote:

I wouldn’t disagree with that
Sam is a good player without being spectacular and as you say not getting near the raiders team
Not surprising considering whiten and williams who are absolutely on fire

My only concern there would be his kicking game and is it good enough

You see when we brought Danny brough back in basically his legs had gone but if you got him into areas where he could play near their line he could kick well and cause trouble but we simply couldn’t do it and still can’t do it. I also think we wait too late to kick always on the last tackle when teams are ready and absolutely no plans on any kicks. We need some grunt badly and a total reorganisation of every aspect of our play, we don’t know what we are doing

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:13 pm  

MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:

You see when we brought Danny brough back in basically his legs had gone but if you got him into areas where he could play near their line he could kick well and cause trouble but we simply couldn’t do it and still can’t do it. I also think we wait too late to kick always on the last tackle when teams are ready and absolutely no plans on any kicks. We need some grunt badly and a total reorganisation of every aspect of our play, we don’t know what we are doing

Agree with all that

On last play kicks if we are in our own half I would look to the past here

Early 90s style where the hooker fires it way behind the attacking line and give who ever is kicking plenty of time to put a decent kick in and gain some yardage

We have to find a way to give the kicker more time as we are always on the back foot

Our current playing situation is a nightmare
We have to find away to improve things

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm  

Pretty much everything we do is predictable. We do things, badly, for the umpteenth time and you know it's coming before it happens.

Re: Dec Patton : Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:04 pm  

Hampshire and gigot are not no7 players i dont even think gigot is in the correct state of mind to be playing he just doesnt look happy and has not done since winning lance todd trophy i liked sam williams before but think got his nose put out a bit by liam finns form keeping him out of the side so doubt he would come back and is he vocal enough for a failing pack would rather have benji marshall if he leaves wests and imagine the fans response to such a signing and show of ambition if we clear enough of failing players maybe we could afford him