Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:54 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Back to the game, Trinity are -18 on the handicap.
Cant remember the last time that we were such strong favourites to win a SL game ?

Come on Trin !

15/2 for a Leigh win too. Might put a decent bet on at that price. Hoping to lose my money obviously.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:37 pm  

Teltry wrote:

Does anyone know who ref is for Sunday. Don't seem to be able to get referee appointments site up for some reason.

Be nice to have a change from Hicks

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:12 pm  

Interview with Chezzie on TrinityTV saying Batch WILL be in for Ashurst but "the spanner in the works" is that Tom could potentially play at the weekend ...definitely in the 21 but will see how he goes at Captain's Run tomorrow but may keep him back for the Wire match next week

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:07 pm  

Teltry wrote:

Does anyone know who ref is for Sunday. Don't seem to be able to get referee appointments site up for some reason.

I’m having the same problem. It seems the Rugby league site has been merged with the Our League site. It’s a right mess. I did eventually find the match officials site, but it’s showing last weeks game’s officials. Never had a problem before this week using the RL site.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:36 pm  

I sent an email to the council on the 26th of May, after the council had been down to BV the previous Friday, to re-assess the ground capacity. This is the reply I received today. 31% of normal capacity. Dear Mr Further to your recent question about the capacity at Wakefield Trinity I confirm the following; Current guidance states that maximum capacity is either 50% of the stadiums current capacity or 4000, whichever is the lesser. In this case the capacity is less than 4000 due to existing safety restrictions. There is specific guidance for sports stadiums on how to calculate capacity in line with social distancing requirements. Wakefield Trinity's current occupancies are based on the 1metre plus mitigation rule. The capacities are set for each area within the stadium, having regard to the guidance, but I can confirm that the total revised capacity at present is 31% of normal capacity. Kind regards, Claudine Robertson Claudine Robertson Senior Environmental Health Officer Wakefield Council Environmental Health, Wakefield One, PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB Tel: 0345 8506 506 Mobile: 07711 153720 crobertson@wakefield.gov.uk www.wakefield.gov.uk

I sent an email to the council on the 26th of May, after the council had been down to BV the previous Friday, to re-assess the ground capacity. This is the reply I received today. 31% of normal capacity. Dear Mr Further to your recent question about the capacity at Wakefield Trinity I confirm the following; Current guidance states that maximum capacity is either 50% of the stadiums current capacity or 4000, whichever is the lesser. In this case the capacity is less than 4000 due to existing safety restrictions. There is specific guidance for sports stadiums on how to calculate capacity in line with social distancing requirements. Wakefield Trinity's current occupancies are based on the 1metre plus mitigation rule. The capacities are set for each area within the stadium, having regard to the guidance, but I can confirm that the total revised capacity at present is 31% of normal capacity. Kind regards, Claudine Robertson Claudine Robertson Senior Environmental Health Officer Wakefield Council Environmental Health, Wakefield One, PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB Tel: 0345 8506 506 Mobile: 07711 153720 crobertson@wakefield.gov.uk www.wakefield.gov.uk

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:43 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: I sent an email to the council on the 26th of May, after the council had been down to BV the previous Friday, to re-assess the ground capacity. This is the reply I received today. 31% of normal capacity. Dear Mr Further to your recent question about the capacity at Wakefield Trinity I confirm the following; Current guidance states that maximum capacity is either 50% of the stadiums current capacity or 4000, whichever is the lesser. In this case the capacity is less than 4000 due to existing safety restrictions. There is specific guidance for sports stadiums on how to calculate capacity in line with social distancing requirements. Wakefield Trinity's current occupancies are based on the 1metre plus mitigation rule. The capacities are set for each area within the stadium, having regard to the guidance, but I can confirm that the total revised capacity at present is 31% of normal capacity. Kind regards, Claudine Robertson Claudine Robertson Senior Environmental Health Officer Wakefield Council Environmental Health, Wakefield One, PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB Tel: <a href="tel:0345 8506 506">0345 8506 506</a> Mobile: <a href="tel:07711 153720">07711 153720</a> crobertson@wakefield.gov.uk http://www.wakefield.gov.uk Interesting. The ‘guidance’ states 4000 or 50% of maximum capacity. I would indicate that to be based on actual spatial capacity and not safety regulated reduced capacity. Unless Covid can now distinguish the strength of foundations etc it seems rather bizarre. Maximum capacity of the stadium in 2008 was raised to 12,600 so that appears to be the maximum capacity of Belle vue. The current reduced capacity seems to be 9,333 so 50% of this is 4000+ so 4000 would apply. I have no idea how the 31% figure would be imposed. Seems quite unreasonable for a mainly open aired venue with a maximum special capacity of 12,600. 31% is 19% below the guidance limit. That’s extremely harsh. Normal capacity makes me believe it’s the capacity that’s normal without imposed restrictions so 31% of 12,600 means 3,906. Sounds more like it.

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: I sent an email to the council on the 26th of May, after the council had been down to BV the previous Friday, to re-assess the ground capacity. This is the reply I received today. 31% of normal capacity. Dear Mr Further to your recent question about the capacity at Wakefield Trinity I confirm the following; Current guidance states that maximum capacity is either 50% of the stadiums current capacity or 4000, whichever is the lesser. In this case the capacity is less than 4000 due to existing safety restrictions. There is specific guidance for sports stadiums on how to calculate capacity in line with social distancing requirements. Wakefield Trinity's current occupancies are based on the 1metre plus mitigation rule. The capacities are set for each area within the stadium, having regard to the guidance, but I can confirm that the total revised capacity at present is 31% of normal capacity. Kind regards, Claudine Robertson Claudine Robertson Senior Environmental Health Officer Wakefield Council Environmental Health, Wakefield One, PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB Tel: <a href="tel:0345 8506 506">0345 8506 506</a> Mobile: <a href="tel:07711 153720">07711 153720</a> crobertson@wakefield.gov.uk http://www.wakefield.gov.uk Interesting. The ‘guidance’ states 4000 or 50% of maximum capacity. I would indicate that to be based on actual spatial capacity and not safety regulated reduced capacity. Unless Covid can now distinguish the strength of foundations etc it seems rather bizarre. Maximum capacity of the stadium in 2008 was raised to 12,600 so that appears to be the maximum capacity of Belle vue. The current reduced capacity seems to be 9,333 so 50% of this is 4000+ so 4000 would apply. I have no idea how the 31% figure would be imposed. Seems quite unreasonable for a mainly open aired venue with a maximum special capacity of 12,600. 31% is 19% below the guidance limit. That’s extremely harsh. Normal capacity makes me believe it’s the capacity that’s normal without imposed restrictions so 31% of 12,600 means 3,906. Sounds more like it.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:58 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

I’m having the same problem. It seems the Rugby league site has been merged with the Our League site. It’s a right mess. I did eventually find the match officials site, but it’s showing last weeks game’s officials. Never had a problem before this week using the RL site.

I've had the same problem. Thought it very odd it took me to Our League site.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:21 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Interesting. The ‘guidance’ states 4000 or 50% of maximum capacity. I would indicate that to be based on actual spatial capacity and not safety regulated reduced capacity. Unless Covid can now distinguish the strength of foundations etc it seems rather bizarre.

Maximum capacity of the stadium in 2008 was raised to 12,600 so that appears to be the maximum capacity of Belle vue.

The current reduced capacity seems to be 9,333 so 50% of this is 4000+ so 4000 would apply.

I have no idea how the 31% figure would be imposed. Seems quite unreasonable for a mainly open aired venue with a maximum special capacity of 12,600.

31% is 19% below the guidance limit. That’s extremely harsh. Normal capacity makes me believe it’s the capacity that’s normal without imposed restrictions so 31% of 12,600 means 3,906. Sounds more like it.

I heard someone discussing tickets allocation when I was in the shop this week. I’m sure I heard a figure of 2,300 allocated, so, if 31% is 2;300, then 100% capacity is near enough 7;500. I think snowie might know better, i think he was involved with working on the crush barriers a few years ago, and the ground safety lot reassessment reduced the capacity.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:39 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Trojan Horse wrote:

Interesting. The ‘guidance’ states 4000 or 50% of maximum capacity. I would indicate that to be based on actual spatial capacity and not safety regulated reduced capacity. Unless Covid can now distinguish the strength of foundations etc it seems rather bizarre.

Maximum capacity of the stadium in 2008 was raised to 12,600 so that appears to be the maximum capacity of Belle vue.

The current reduced capacity seems to be 9,333 so 50% of this is 4000+ so 4000 would apply.

I have no idea how the 31% figure would be imposed. Seems quite unreasonable for a mainly open aired venue with a maximum special capacity of 12,600.

31% is 19% below the guidance limit. That’s extremely harsh. Normal capacity makes me believe it’s the capacity that’s normal without imposed restrictions so 31% of 12,600 means 3,906. Sounds more like it.

I heard someone discussing tickets allocation when I was in the shop this week. I’m sure I heard a figure of 2,300 allocated, so, if 31% is 2;300, then 100% capacity is near enough 7;500. I think snowie might know better, i think he was involved with working on the crush barriers a few years ago, and the ground safety lot reassessment reduced the capacity.

I just find it strange if it is based on a reduced safety capacity. That’s not the actual maximum capacity the footprint will allow.

I could understand if the 7500 was to be breached but there’s no chance of that with the 4000 maximum imposed. The ground safety will only be compromised above 7500 afterall.

Even so that doesn’t account for why it’s not 50% of 7500.

Where the 31% come from I don’t know. Shaving a further 19% off guidance there must be a reason.

Maybe I’m just missing something.

Re: Leigh : Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:59 pm  

We are dealing with wakefield council ,not an easy thing to do at the best of times , probably read the government guidelines and just plucked a figure out of the air and gone with it . However they have come up with the figure we are stuck with it until such time that we are deemed safe by the government to increase crowds. By which time with a few more wins under our belt we’ll have fans salivating to get their mitts on a ticket to watch the mighty Trin.