Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:15 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Apologies, he did say MC not CC.

But even then, Smith went when we had no option.
Since Carter has righted the ship we haven't let anyone go.

Smith left in 2014

That is not the point PT what he said was whilst MC was in charge which was inaccurate don’t you agree. If he had specified a period he may have been correct but he didn’t so he was wrong.

[PopTart]

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:28 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

That is not the point PT what he said was whilst MC was in charge which was inaccurate don’t you agree. If he had specified a period he may have been correct but he didn’t so he was wrong.

He was inaccurate yes.
A more accurate description is, since MC took over and got the books in order after we nearly went under. We haven't sold any stars.

Seems a bit of a ridiculous point though.
MC had to correct the errors that had gone before before he could really be criticised for selling players.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:35 pm  

supercat wrote:

Kyle Amor

Enough said

This is ridiculous.

When MC took over all players were effectively OOC because for those with a short memory we were insolvent after Mr Glover.

Amor and others had to go as we restructured which took about 18 month.

From 2015 onwards we have not let a single contracted player leave unless we wanted to. OOC players are different, you offer what you can and leave it too the player.

The retention of TJ, Tanginoa and Fifita despite intense competition tells it all. Ted for all I liked him would have flogged all three.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:38 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Just thought Tim Smith, flawed yes but certainly one of our star players wouldn’t you agree PT.

Now you’re just being stupid, you know damn well he was let go for being a drunk, see YouTube.

Seriously this new pendantry makes you look even dafter than normal.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:39 pm  

PopTart wrote:

He was inaccurate yes.
A more accurate description is, since MC took over and got the books in order after we nearly went under. We haven't sold any stars.

Seems a bit of a ridiculous point though.
MC had to correct the errors that had gone before before he could really be criticised for selling players.

Exactly

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:12 pm  

vastman wrote:

Now you’re just being stupid, you know damn well he was let go for being a drunk, see YouTube.

Seriously this new pendantry makes you look even dafter than normal.

Second time round we released him for being an idiot. First time we sold him to Salford to pay the tax bill.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:19 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Second time round we released him for being an idiot. First time we sold him to Salford to pay the tax bill.

Wasn’t that under Glover? Although I admit the Ted - Glover - Carter timeline escapes me at times.

The second time which is what I’m on about was 2015 and it’s 2015 and beyond that I’m on about.

We have not been a selling club since the end of the 2015 which to any fair minded person was when MC had got full control of the club financially.

I assume we no longer sell because we no longer live beyond our means.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:27 pm  

vastman wrote:

Wasn’t that under Glover?

The second time which is what I’m on about was 2015 and it’s 2015 and beyond that I’m on about.

We have not been a selling club since the end of the 2015 which to any fair minded person was when MC had got full control of the club financially.

I assume we no longer sell because we no longer live beyond our means.

No Smith was sold just after Carter had taken over. But yes its fair to say in recent times we have managed to keep hold of our key players, probably for the first time in my time watching them

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:41 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

No Smith was sold just after Carter had taken over. But yes its fair to say in recent times we have managed to keep hold of our key players, probably for the first time in my time watching them

That correct. I don’t see how any fair minded person could criticise MC in his first few seasons, he was fire fighting.

As I say since 2015 I have felt confident that we would not sell players who wanted to stay, which appears to be most of them.

No club can stop players who want to leave but we no longer seem to actively encourage them.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:48 pm  

It is nothing to do with MC it is all to do with you who seems to change the boundaries of your statements to fit your arguments. Why don’t you just try to say what I originally posted was wrong and this has been pointed out to me. It is much easier than trying to twist the situation because you made no reference to a time period just that MC had never sold a star player whilst he has been in charge.