Re: Sam Lisone : Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:02 pm  

Another we're not signing

Re: Sam Lisone : Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:02 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Another we're not signing

Assuming we ever were.

Looks like him and Smith go back a long way, he coached him at under 20's.

Re: Sam Lisone : Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:54 pm  

He looks to be carrying quite a few extra pounds.

Time will tell, but just like Magoulias, he may be a bullet dodged.

Re: Sam Lisone : Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:38 pm  

Well thats another quota spot taken by someone else. More other clubs fill up, the less opposition we have in signing overseas players.

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:48 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Well thats another quota spot taken by someone else. More other clubs fill up, the less opposition we have in signing overseas players.

That’s a good way to look at it PB

6 teams now have no quota spots
Leeds
Cas
Wigan
Hull kr
Shudds

The below have one each left
Catalan
Hull fc
Salford
Wire

Interesting the leopards haven’t have lamb come off quota yet (Yorkshire live) it says applied to sl for him to come off

So as it stands they only have one spot left


We’ve got three spots to fill

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:50 am  

There are plenty out there still and as the WC draws to the semi final stage a lot more will be known quantities.

There is also some inevitable fall out pre NRL when you can nip in and get a decent player.

I’ve said it before but I’d be happy if we went into the season with one spot free. It worked a treat for Salford with Hastings and ourselves with Tanginoa to name but one.

Its impossible to guess who will get injured in a season or where the problem positions might be. That spot free could be the difference between a good or bad season.

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:35 am  

musson wrote:

That’s a good way to look at it PB

6 teams now have no quota spots
Leeds
Cas
Wigan
Hull kr
Shudds

The below have one each left
Catalan
Hull fc
Salford
Wire

Interesting the leopards haven’t have lamb come off quota yet (Yorkshire live) it says applied to sl for him to come off

So as it stands they only have one spot left


We’ve got three spots to fill

If those teams who are "full" do want to get someone else in, they will have to release someone...there may be someone to pick up that way - with the added benefit that the releasing team may well pay some ongoing wages.

Further, when some players in the NRL find themselves on the outer, when back for pre-season, they may be willing to take a "good" deal with us to a) pay the bills and b) keep themselves in the shop window.

Whilst we'd love to have some big names signed up, we are probably in quite a strong position.

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:04 pm  

dboy wrote:

If those teams who are "full" do want to get someone else in, they will have to release someone...there may be someone to pick up that way - with the added benefit that the releasing team may well pay some ongoing wages.

Further, when some players in the NRL find themselves on the outer, when back for pre-season, they may be willing to take a "good" deal with us to a) pay the bills and b) keep themselves in the shop window.

Whilst we'd love to have some big names signed up, we are probably in quite a strong position.

Said that earlier myself. As NRL teams start to train, some with new coaches, some well known players are suddenly no longer wanted. Why rush, it's not like we won't be able to put out a reasonably competitive team even now, we certainly won't be dragging some bloke out of the pub to make up the numbers.

Our other big advantage is our expectations. We will want to finish top six but it's not the end for us if we don't. So our coach can take a few on the chin to work out who is and isn't working and rectify it. This is far easier with slots still free.

We are not building to win the comp this season, we are hopefully laying down foundations to do it in the future.

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:29 pm  

vastman wrote:

dboy wrote:

If those teams who are "full" do want to get someone else in, they will have to release someone...there may be someone to pick up that way - with the added benefit that the releasing team may well pay some ongoing wages.

Further, when some players in the NRL find themselves on the outer, when back for pre-season, they may be willing to take a "good" deal with us to a) pay the bills and b) keep themselves in the shop window.

Whilst we'd love to have some big names signed up, we are probably in quite a strong position.

Said that earlier myself. As NRL teams start to train, some with new coaches, some well known players are suddenly no longer wanted. Why rush, it's not like we won't be able to put out a reasonably competitive team even now, we certainly won't be dragging some bloke out of the pub to make up the numbers.

Our other big advantage is our expectations. We will want to finish top six but it's not the end for us if we don't. So our coach can take a few on the chin to work out who is and isn't working and rectify it. This is far easier with slots still free.

We are not building to win the comp this season, we are hopefully laying down foundations to do it in the future.

It's not the end of the world no,but IMG could be looking atthe league placings. Another fight near the bottom, which would mean 5 seasons in a row, could go against us. However a top 6 finish, added in with the completed east stand, and a fresher looking north stand, could make a difference. Remember 7 of our defeats last year were within a converted score, and points wise, we were closer to the play offs than going down. It really is fine margins. That bit of extra quality in the regular first teamers, could make all the difference.

I think we got lucky with Murphy, Hall and Taufua coming in for Johnstone and Toupou, so personally, those key replacements are for Miller, Fifita, Batch and Arona. I think all the other exits were really back up squad members.

Get it right for those 4 I listed, and I think we'll go OK, but as each player signs for someone else, the talent pool potentially drops a little.

Is it like those unfortunate kids at school that in PE gets picked last perhaps?

Re: Sam Lisone : Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:38 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

It's not the end of the world no,but IMG could be looking atthe league placings. Another fight near the bottom, which would mean 5 seasons in a row, could go against us. However a top 6 finish, added in with the completed east stand, and a fresher looking north stand, could make a difference. Remember 7 of our defeats last year were within a converted score, and points wise, we were closer to the play offs than going down. It really is fine margins. That bit of extra quality in the regular first teamers, could make all the difference.

I think we got lucky with Murphy, Hall and Taufua coming in for Johnstone and Toupou, so personally, those key replacements are for Miller, Fifita, Batch and Arona. I think all the other exits were really back up squad members.

Get it right for those 4 I listed, and I think we'll go OK, but as each player signs for someone else, the talent pool potentially drops a little.

Is it like those unfortunate kids at school that in PE gets picked last perhaps?

To me that makes no sense at all.

Funny thing is you are sort of disagreeing with yourself. If we do get Taylor and Proctor, are they not exactly the sort of short term impact players who might get us that top six for next season? As opposed to the long term investments who will come good a few years down the line? At least with Proctor you know he can play, you're not living in hope that one day he will make it.

Yes it is a balancing act.