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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:24 pm  
Ffs stop it.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:21 pm  
It’s becoming more likely that Wakefield, along with more Northern areas will be put into the third tier of lockdown in the very near future. How will this affect the Sky contract if Super league stops playing before the contractual number of games have been televised. Just when things were looking brighter for Trinity, season tickets on sale next month, new playing strip, possible signings, now the game gets a second kick in the backside.
I’ve become tired of reading the endless arguments on this thread between two or three posters, whatever their views and opinions are, nothing will change. Government will do whatever it wants, and sadly, right or wrong, we all have to comply. Our great game is in greater danger now of becoming financially obliterated than it’s ever been. I fear more for Trinity’s future now than I have throughout the past administrations and financial crisis. Let’s stop the arguments, and get back to discussing “What now for fans watching”, while we still can.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:35 pm  
Tier 3 shouldn't affect the rugby. Wigan and Sts are in tier 3 already aren't they?
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:37 pm  
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Tier 3 shouldn't affect the rugby. Wigan and Sts are in tier 3 already aren't they?


Yeah Tier 3 wont have any effect on Pro sport in it`s current format.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:13 pm  
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Yeah Tier 3 wont have any effect on Pro sport in it`s current format.

The point I’m trying to make is, Sky money will be around £300.000 less per club next season. I don’t think many clubs can survive on Sky money alone. If spectators are not allowed into stadiums all clubs across all divisions, will not be financially viable, even with drastic cost cutting.
The first lockdown was unsuccessful, and quite likely the second lockdown will be unsuccessful, but governments will apply lockdown at regular intervals, meaning people cannot muster in large numbers for a considerable time. I just hope Sky will continue to fund the game, and the sport can develop a streaming service for season ticket holders, pay per view, I am aware there are technical difficulties to overcome, but we need something that will be beneficial for the game and not just the elite few.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:18 am  
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Sorry to break it to you but if you paid online and picked up in store, you still paid online. All you did was distract the Wakefield team from making a sale for that shop.
But in both cases it's a British firm. You could have got it sent to your house and done exactly the same for the British company.
You just used a bit of foreign petrol to get it.


Not so. The items I wanted were not available in store nor any other store. By sending the item to PC World rather than home I contributed to the employment of at least two workers. The reciever of the goods and the girl who attended to me at the counter.
I "distracted" no one.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:22 am  
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So you mean you are not only going against health and safety advice you are encouraging others to do so.


No, I offer them free will. What they do or not do is their choice. It is still a free country isn't it? Oh! hang on a minute. :THINK:
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:28 am  
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they will be adding further information to death certificates like he also died of stupidity

99.9% says I won't. Look, if you want to crap your pants everytime you meet someone without a mask then fine, but don't ascribe your fear of dying to me.
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:10 am  
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Great work on your new vac.
How about the clothes on your back or, the car on your drive or taxi/bus that you take, if you dont have a car ?
What have you bought from PC World - was it too made in England.
And what about the rest of the UK population - the pattern of the nations buying habits suggests that , like on this thread, you are in a very, very small minority - Have you seen the balance of trade figures for the last 30/40 years ? - there was a time when the UK tried to have a positive BoT but, that is long, long gone. Again, laregely abandoned under the Thatcher regime.

Sadly in the commercial world, many/most large companies site themselves in the most cost effective base to run their business - we best steer clear of Brexit :oops:

During Thatcher's reign the UK made to run with the "free market", allowing the £ to be the controlling factor in most economic decisions. Selling off everything from the railways to the utilities and pretty much all of the former Nationalised industries, swapping money going into government coffers (in theory) and instead, filling the pockets of wealthy investment companies or certain individuals pockets.

Still, this has rock all to do with covid and the many different government responses in how it is being "dealt with".


You asked.
Still, this has rock all to do with covid and the many different government responses in how it is being "dealt with".

I believe the whole argument began with:

The bottom line is, why would any country use lockdown measures and cause huge, long-lasting damage to their economy if it was not necessary, in particular the UK government?


I answered that, in so many words, in my experience the government could not give a hoot about assett strippers and the rest and in the majority of cases have stood back and allowed the destruction of the manufacturing sector to happen. They could and should have done more. This does not always mean bail outs, unless it's the banks of course. Did you forget about them?

Therefore I believe they could not give a hoot when the same, or similar, scenareo takes place under covid. Why would this be any different? Suddenly got a conscience have they?

You said it was people wanting cheap goods re- the running down of industry When I disagreed you stated . It's a whole different argument, please dont confuse the two issues

Not so.

Yet now you agree with me with the following quote/

“During Thatcher's reign the UK made to run with the "free market", allowing the £ to be the controlling factor in most economic decisions. Selling off everything from the railways to the utilities and pretty much all of the former Nationalised industries, swapping money going into government coffers (in theory) and instead, filling the pockets of wealthy investment companies or certain individuals pockets.”

Therefore, Yes, the government would use lockdown measures and cause long lasting damage to the economy because like you point out with Thatcher, they don't give a monkeys.

And if you believe these companies needed “bailing out” then I'm afraid you havn't grasped just how these companies work. The firms I mentioned were doing very well thank you but for the shareholders wanting a few extra bob to spend (to name just one excuse.)
Correct me if I'm wrong but succsessive Germans governments have, in past years, handled their industry far better than the shower we elect
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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:16 am  
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It’s becoming more likely that Wakefield, along with more Northern areas will be put into the third tier of lockdown in the very near future. How will this affect the Sky contract if Super league stops playing before the contractual number of games have been televised. Just when things were looking brighter for Trinity, season tickets on sale next month, new playing strip, possible signings, now the game gets a second kick in the backside.
I’ve become tired of reading the endless arguments on this thread between two or three posters, whatever their views and opinions are, nothing will change. Government will do whatever it wants, and sadly, right or wrong, we all have to comply. Our great game is in greater danger now of becoming financially obliterated than it’s ever been. I fear more for Trinity’s future now than I have throughout the past administrations and financial crisis. Let’s stop the arguments, and get back to discussing “What now for fans watching”, while we still can.


I have tried many times but no one will discuss " “What now for fans watching”".
I may have something on that score soon. But no doubt the snipers will prefer to try and shoot me down rather than discuss “What now for fans watching”
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