Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:03 pm  

coco the fullback wrote: You appear to be claiming, despite all evidence to contrary, that lockdowns are not necessary and/or are ineffective. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You could start by listing all the countries that didn't use a lockdown and their covid data. Which countries do you feel achieved results with limited intervention. Are you really claiming that cases/ deaths would have been the same in the UK without the lockdown? In Sweden, secondary schools were closed, sport fixtures cancelled and gatherings of more than 50 people banned. Swedes were asked to stay at home if they are over 70 or feeling unwell. Social distancing was requested in public places.people were told to avoid unnecessary international travel and to limit car journeys within the country to two hours. Just a couple of points to end this game of online tennis to bed, here's a conclusion in a paper on the Lancet These findings suggest that more restrictive public health practices may indeed be associated with less transmission and better outcomes. However, in our analysis, full lockdowns and wide-spread COVID-19 testing were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli ... 89-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext Also for your information secondary schools in Sweden remained open up until the age of 16. I look forward to viewing the overall mortality in Sweden at the end of the year compared to the last five years to see if they got it right.

coco the fullback wrote: You appear to be claiming, despite all evidence to contrary, that lockdowns are not necessary and/or are ineffective. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You could start by listing all the countries that didn't use a lockdown and their covid data. Which countries do you feel achieved results with limited intervention. Are you really claiming that cases/ deaths would have been the same in the UK without the lockdown? In Sweden, secondary schools were closed, sport fixtures cancelled and gatherings of more than 50 people banned. Swedes were asked to stay at home if they are over 70 or feeling unwell. Social distancing was requested in public places.people were told to avoid unnecessary international travel and to limit car journeys within the country to two hours. Just a couple of points to end this game of online tennis to bed, here's a conclusion in a paper on the Lancet These findings suggest that more restrictive public health practices may indeed be associated with less transmission and better outcomes. However, in our analysis, full lockdowns and wide-spread COVID-19 testing were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli ... 89-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext Also for your information secondary schools in Sweden remained open up until the age of 16. I look forward to viewing the overall mortality in Sweden at the end of the year compared to the last five years to see if they got it right.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:23 pm  

Miro wrote:

90% of my posts are spent putting my critics in their place. But for yours and their nit picking this would be page 20.

and who say's you have the credibility to put anyone in their place. you're a deluded oaf banging out a conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and cannot exist based on the sheer amount of collusion required to make it work. People profit from adversity it's the way of the world.

This thread should be binned it is nothing to do with this RL Forum, the situation affects us all but your nonsense needs sharing with likeminded pedlars of deluded piffle. If you are not already annoying people on Facebook, perhaps you should I'm pretty sure you'll find loads of friends to massage your oversized ego

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:29 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote: Just a couple of points to end this game of online tennis to bed, here's a conclusion in a paper on the Lancet These findings suggest that more restrictive public health practices may indeed be associated with less transmission and better outcomes. However, in our analysis, full lockdowns and wide-spread COVID-19 testing were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli ... 89-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext Also for your information secondary schools in Sweden remained open up until the age of 16. I look forward to viewing the overall mortality in Sweden at the end of the year compared to the last five years to see if they got it right. mmmm.... I love the smell of freshly picked cherries on a morning I'm guessing you got your take on the paper from somewhere like this: https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/22/lanc ... lity-rate/ You've got to love Tucker Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller rather than reading the actual paper https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPd ... %2930208-X (your link didn't work, probably because it was copied from a website such as the one above)

MatthewTrin wrote: Just a couple of points to end this game of online tennis to bed, here's a conclusion in a paper on the Lancet These findings suggest that more restrictive public health practices may indeed be associated with less transmission and better outcomes. However, in our analysis, full lockdowns and wide-spread COVID-19 testing were not associated with reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli ... 89-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext Also for your information secondary schools in Sweden remained open up until the age of 16. I look forward to viewing the overall mortality in Sweden at the end of the year compared to the last five years to see if they got it right. mmmm.... I love the smell of freshly picked cherries on a morning I'm guessing you got your take on the paper from somewhere like this: https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/22/lanc ... lity-rate/ You've got to love Tucker Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller rather than reading the actual paper https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPd ... %2930208-X (your link didn't work, probably because it was copied from a website such as the one above)

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:38 am  

RickK wrote:

and who say's you have the credibility to put anyone in their place. you're a deluded oaf banging out a conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and cannot exist based on the sheer amount of collusion required to make it work. People profit from adversity it's the way of the world.

This thread should be binned it is nothing to do with this RL Forum, the situation affects us all but your nonsense needs sharing with likeminded pedlars of deluded piffle. If you are not already annoying people on Facebook, perhaps you should I'm pretty sure you'll find loads of friends to massage your oversized ego

I need to remind you again, this thread is titled what now for fans watching?.....COVID CHAT.
It has over 20,000 views. Who are you to say it should be binned. More to the point, why are you here at all if you dislike this thread so much. Check out page 1 there are 13 other threads to choose from and even more on pages 2,3,4 etc.. Fill your boots.

You state.
“a conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and cannot exist based on the sheer amount of collusion required to make it work.”

History is not on your side RikK. I give you religion as just one example. . Now I am not religious but I have to say Christianity and Islam, to name the two main religions have done just that. They exist despite the shear amount of collusion required to make them work. . Even more immpresive is the fact that this was long before globalization, the telephone, the internet, the UN, the mighty US petro dollar and the IMF. Had globalization been to the fore then these religions woukd have been even more prevailant than they already are. And lets face it, you can't get much more prevailent than Christianity and Islam have been over hundreds of years, both are spread over the whole globe and have been adopted by hundreds of governments worldwide just as the covid dogma has been adopted by governments worldwide.

Would you agree or disagree with the dogma of both these religions and the rest. Dogma very similar to the covid rituals being imposed upon us right now. If the answer is yes then good for you but they can't both be right but both exist and are here, and here to stay.

That leads me to suggest that the dogma surrounding covid may one day be viewed in the same way religion is viewed by the non religious, or christianity is viewed by Judaism or the Hindu is viewed by the Muslim and visa versa.

Your theory that this theory cannot exsist based on the shear amount of collusion required to make it work is therefore de-bunked.

You know what Josef Goebbels the German propaganda minister said "The bigger the lie, the more people believe it." And he should know, he got away with some whoppers.

I hope this oafs credibility is now restored.

PS I am not on facebook.

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:54 am  

RickK wrote:

and who say's you have the credibility to put anyone in their place. you're a deluded oaf banging out a conspiracy theory that doesn't exist and cannot exist based on the sheer amount of collusion required to make it work. People profit from adversity it's the way of the world.

This thread should be binned it is nothing to do with this RL Forum, the situation affects us all but your nonsense needs sharing with likeminded pedlars of deluded piffle. If you are not already annoying people on Facebook, perhaps you should I'm pretty sure you'll find loads of friends to massage your oversized ego

I decided to let one Covid discussion run on the forum as it was taking over every thread as it affected everyone so much.
I explained why on the original thread.

With the greatest respect, if you don't want to discuss Covid issues you should stay away from this thread.
And if you do, you'll need to keep you posts respectful of other posters, whether you agree with them or not, just like every other thread.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:43 am  

May I ask why anyone should be respectful to a poster who is advocating an ideology rooted in dangerous conspiracy theories? A poster who shows zero respect to those who have lost and will lose their lives during this pandemic?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:57 am  

coco the fullback wrote: mmmm.... I love the smell of freshly picked cherries on a morning I'm guessing you got your take on the paper from somewhere like this: https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/22/lanc ... lity-rate/ You've got to love Tucker Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller rather than reading the actual paper https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPd ... %2930208-X (your link didn't work, probably because it was copied from a website such as the one above) Having previously made an incorrect statement about Swedish schools you follow it with some type of dig against a website and US news anchor that I have no knowledge about. I actuallly took the link from google after hearing about the publication on YouTube, I must have copied it wrong. Still doesn't change the conclusion of the paper regarding full lockdowns. Good luck with your faith in Covidianity.

coco the fullback wrote: mmmm.... I love the smell of freshly picked cherries on a morning I'm guessing you got your take on the paper from somewhere like this: https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/22/lanc ... lity-rate/ You've got to love Tucker Carlson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller rather than reading the actual paper https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPd ... %2930208-X (your link didn't work, probably because it was copied from a website such as the one above) Having previously made an incorrect statement about Swedish schools you follow it with some type of dig against a website and US news anchor that I have no knowledge about. I actuallly took the link from google after hearing about the publication on YouTube, I must have copied it wrong. Still doesn't change the conclusion of the paper regarding full lockdowns. Good luck with your faith in Covidianity.

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:49 am  

Billy Butcher wrote:

May I ask why anyone should be respectful to a poster who is advocating an ideology rooted in dangerous conspiracy theories? A poster who shows zero respect to those who have lost and will lose their lives during this pandemic?

Because its the rules of the forum. You don't have to read it.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:59 am  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Having previously made an incorrect statement about Swedish schools you follow it with some type of dig against a website and US news anchor that I have no knowledge about.

I actuallly took the link from google after hearing about the publication on YouTube, I must have copied it wrong. Still doesn't change the conclusion of the paper regarding full lockdowns.

Good luck with your faith in Covidianity.

So, are you now suggesting that Sweden's response was the right way to try and deal with covid ?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:19 am  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Having previously made an incorrect statement about Swedish schools you follow it with some type of dig against a website and US news anchor that I have no knowledge about.

I actuallly took the link from google after hearing about the publication on YouTube, I must have copied it wrong. Still doesn't change the conclusion of the paper regarding full lockdowns.

Good luck with your faith in Covidianity.

I see this faith you are on about

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The New Religion Of Covidianity
Covid and pandemics could be seen as a new religion which is being imposed on the masses, as other religions have been in the past. It used to be that the concept of an invisible man in the sky who sees everything would scare people into compliance, whereas this time it's the invisible killer which only kills in areas who don't do as they are told. This new religion has the power to shut down the places of worship of the other relgions, if you are not a follower of Covidianity it does not matter, it has already merged with the state so sets the laws of the land; you are no longer in a Christian (or other) country but in a Covidian country. Bill Gates is a high priest of the religion Covidianity plans to ban cash, increase surveillance, restrict freedoms, close down small businesses, it requires face coverings. Covid is seen as more important than any other illness, including ones with far higher kill rates. Covidianity requires sacrifice, the rushed vaccines are coming soon.