Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:30 pm  

Remember seeing Iron maiden when they had just started at Unity Hall great gig, And took the mrs to see Black Sabbath (Ronnie james Dio ) heaven n hell tour at Queens hall in Leeds,But best of all was The Scorpions at the Apollo fantastic live band, Only downer i have had is not seeing Richie's Blackmoores Rainbow last year when i was on Holiday.
Music as been my life n soul and kept me sane bands like Zep,Purple,Yes,Rush,Demon,Dedringer, Nazareth,and yes Devo, Now i'm a bit mellow these days i like the rock chicks sound like Pink,






Up The Trin

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:17 pm  

Well Vastman! I could echo your whole post virtually word for word but, especially, the 60's - 70's period you mention. The Kinks, Small Faces(must have Marriot), the Who, Free, The Yardbirds. Zeppelin plus the Yank ones like The Byrds, The Doors and Creedance Clearwater Revival.
I did actually see The Who, in fact I waas there in 1969 at Leeds University Refectory, plus a few times since.
You are so right about todays "music" although I also remember my Father having a similar attitude to his own era, so, maybe its something to do with what we grow up with.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:22 pm  

acko wrote:

Remember seeing Iron maiden when they had just started at Unity Hall

A mate of mine tells a great story about that gig, which may be apocryphal. He was there, and got his jeans signed by the band - went home worse for wear in the early hours and chucked his clothes on the floor at the end of the bed, as you do, and woke up the following afternoon to find them missing; he goes downstairs, and they're on the clothes airer, freshly laundered by his doting mum, sans signatures.

I remember ending up with backstage passes to see Saxon at Leeds Irish Centre sometime in the late 80's - early 90's; they were leftover at JAT records and I knew the guys who worked there - so we went and I took my Mum, as she was a fan of that NWOBHM type stuff (I wasn't.) We go backstage afterwards and I went to the bar - walked back to our seats with drinks in hand, and found Biff Byford signing my Mums boobs. Awks.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:26 pm  

vastman wrote:

Started something here didn't I

For starters some of you have a dreadful choice in music

Seriously never been a big fan of gigs large or small though I've been to a fair few - last one was Bingley festival 2009??? Ocean Colour Scene and the Zutons stick in my mind. saw a shambling Happy Mondays there the previous year.

TBH I've had no real interest in music since the mid 90's. It's not so much the music though I find most of it bland and corporate, and even the Indie stuff like the Cribbs for example, though entertaining it is hardly original. Just not willing to shell out the cash for what I've heard before.

What really bugs me MUCH MORE over the last twenty years is the nature of the industry - a bit like RL its been messed up that much it's barely credible. There was a time when the team that finished top won and the band at number one were the top band. Now there's no real chart because there are no real sales because it's all manipulated.

If I hear one more time how successful, groundbreaing and how many sales etc Beyonce?? and Dead Shearan have made I'll cry - they are nothing compared to the likes of Elton John (who I don't like) or Aretha Franklin who I do. Maybe I'm just old.

Music wise I have three catagories I love - least importand first,

3: Any easy listening, Matt Monroe, Glenn Campbell and the Diamond. More nostalgia because thats what my parents liked.

2: Music I lived through, XTC, The Jam, The Cure, Phycadellic Furs, The Cult and the band that first got me listening, The Undertones, Stranglers, Buzzcocks and The Boomtown Rats. Most of whom Ive seen.

1: British 60's R&B and Beat Bands, I'm far to young but discoverd it in desperation after the first time I heard synth pop! I also at the same time stumbled upon a performance by Gerry and the Pacemakers at the theatre club and much to my astonishment really liked them.

Love them all really but my faves are The Kinks, Small Face, the Who and The Yardbirds and a few Yank ones like The Byrds and Creedance. Most of all I love the Stones, IMO the best band that this country ever produced both musically and in attitude. They don't get the kudos in this country they deserve because IMHO they had the audacity to become popular/succesfull/long lasting/and incredibly rich in that order, and we know how the British embrace a winner don't we

Oh and I've seen them eleven times but not in the last 20 years as even I concede that I probably saw them in there pomp so why spoil it. Wished I could have seen the Small Faces but I'm way to young and never managed the Who which I'd like.

I love Bowie but for some reason I don't think of him as a Rock star, more a performer and all round enigma.

Music I don't like is Queen and any other pomp rock bands, it may be good but it sure as hell isn't Rock'n'Roll, it's light entertainment to me. Rap, I just do not get it. I'm sure I've offended some but hey

I agree with this. Although, I do actually like a little bit of Queen in tiny doses.

I only listen to 2 rap artists and that is Immortal Technique and Eminem. Eminem's Slim Shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP have some of the most creative wordplay, flows and catchy beats I've heard in any genre. Also, I like how he rubs some of the older generation up the wrong way with his absurd Slim Shady persona. That said, he is nothing more than a lame pop-artist these days collaborating with the likes of Rhianna when he used to extract the urine out of them. But those two aforementioned albums have some fantastic tracks.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:26 am  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

I agree with this. Although, I do actually like a little bit of Queen in tiny doses.

I only listen to 2 rap artists and that is Immortal Technique and Eminem. Eminem's Slim Shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP have some of the most creative wordplay, flows and catchy beats I've heard in any genre. Also, I like how he rubs some of the older generation up the wrong way with his absurd Slim Shady persona. That said, he is nothing more than a lame pop-artist these days collaborating with the likes of Rhianna when he used to extract the urine out of them. But those two aforementioned albums have some fantastic tracks.

it's each to their own, Even though I went from being into electronic music and DJ's etc while at College then Uni. I then got into the great bands of the 60's and 70's like The Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, credence, Yard Birds & The Beatles in a big way. but at a similar time I used to be/ still are a massive Rap fan especially of Tupac, that dude had it all, he could rap, put lyrics together like no other, hit you with subjects other rappers wouldn't touch, he was the package att and performed like his life depended on it. Shame Deathrow happened but even then he churned out some quality there. Tracks like Brenda's Got a Baby, Dear Mama, Only God Can Judge Me, Me Against the World etc you go on and on at the quality he churned out in a relatively short career. His family/recording company have released stuff that was awesome way after his death because he'd wrote and rapped so many songs and imo one of the best rap tracks ever released is Keep Ya Head Up.
Nas was awesome as well in the 90's, Dr Dre's Chronic is one of the best Rap albums ever imo. Was never into Eminem just couldn't get into him tbh but it was it is a bit like I couldn't get into Jay Z apart from the odd track. Loved guys nack then like England's own Slick Rick, EPMD, A Tribe Called Quest, Eric B and Rakim, Mos Def, The Roots, Wu-Tang Clan, Young MC.Gang Starr, Early Ice Cube.
Tbh for me even someone who got into rap at school, even sneaking down to a Public Enemy concert at Brixton Academy as a kid. I don't think it's age and getting older because I still love the stuff from the 80's/90's & apart from Kendrick Lamar who is ripping it up atm, the rap game is crap. With fools like Kanya West selling millions and the dude can't rap or rhyme to save his life with his synth over voice, the dude should have stopped a producer.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:39 am  

Since getting into music through my dad when I was around 6 or 7 in the early 70's I've embraced every type of music and genre including RocknRoll, Pop, Easy Listening, Sunshine Pop, Singer Songwriters, Punk, Funk, Disco, Northern Soul, Soft Rock, Heavy Rock, Synth Pop, Europop, Tamla Motown etc etc the list is endless. I now have a collection of around 100,000 tracks all on vinyl and CD and DJ at specialist 'Beat the Jock' gigs where punters can ask for any song 1957 to 1990 and if I can't play it they win a free drink. This includes any top 50 track up to 1977, top 75 thereafter and even non charting singles of which I have many 1000's. I don't do Live music as I just don't have the time due to DJ'ing and Pop Quizzing but did see most of my favourites between 1980 and the early 90's including ELO, Genesis, Rush, Rainbow, Whitesnake, Slade, Status Quo, Black Sabbath (Ronnie James Dio on vocal) Roxette, and a few others.
Bands and artists I've loved and will always love -
Beatles, Rolling Stones, ELO, Hollies, Searchers Eddie Cochran, Sam Cooke, Tremeloes, Marmalade, Small Faces, 4 Tops, Temptations, Supremes, Kinks, Rainbow, Genesis, Manic St Preachers, Shed 7, Slade, Sweet, Smokie, Dusty Springfield, Billy Fury, Madonna, Fleetwood Mac, Boston, Idle Race, Christopher Rainbow, Madness, Specials, Love Affair, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Byrds, Simon and Garfunkel, Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morrisette, Kate Bush, The Babys, The Cars, The Ramones, Blondie, The Stranglers, The Boomtown Rats, The Smiths, The Cult, Big Country and literally hundreds more.... I have tried my hardest to listen to today's music but it does nothing at all for me, I am just listening to less and less of it and really struggle to recognise any of it when it comes up in a monthly Pop Quiz I go to in Knutsford. I have pretty much decided to just play what I enjoy now and still love to find a record from the 60's or 70's I don't know though there aren't many now. Unfortunately doing what I do on a Friday night means I have to miss a fair few games and that's the biggest drawback of all. My son was able to go to Hull KR whilst I listened for score updates and he'll be at Warrington this week too. I'm looking forward to retiring and being able to get to all the games, I feel I'm missing out but your bread and butter comes first so roll on a few more years for that.
Nice to read about everybody's different tastes in music, it's certainly been my life and will continue to be so, a very interesting thread indeed.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:55 am  

Is there any post-hardcore fans on here? I'm thinking stuff like Glassjaw, Letlive., At the Drive-In and all the stuff that was influenced by the hardcore punk scene but turned it into something a bit more technical musically?

Don't know if anyone has heard of them but Propagandhi are my favourite band so far in my life. They started off as a pop-punk band back in like 1992 but they're more metal/thrash/pop-punk these days. It's a weird blend but they are fantastic musicians. Tracks to check out: Tertium Non Datur, Dear Coaches Corner (sports relevance), Mate Ka Moris Ukun Rasik An, Adventures in Zoochosis and Lotus Gait. If you're into decent guitar driven music, I would recommend!

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:57 am  

vastman wrote:

Started something here didn't I

For starters some of you have a dreadful choice in music

Seriously never been a big fan of gigs large or small though I've been to a fair few - last one was Bingley festival 2009??? Ocean Colour Scene and the Zutons stick in my mind. saw a shambling Happy Mondays there the previous year.

TBH I've had no real interest in music since the mid 90's. It's not so much the music though I find most of it bland and corporate, and even the Indie stuff like the Cribbs for example, though entertaining it is hardly original. Just not willing to shell out the cash for what I've heard before.

What really bugs me MUCH MORE over the last twenty years is the nature of the industry - a bit like RL its been messed up that much it's barely credible. There was a time when the team that finished top won and the band at number one were the top band. Now there's no real chart because there are no real sales because it's all manipulated.

If I hear one more time how successful, groundbreaing and how many sales etc Beyonce?? and Dead Shearan have made I'll cry - they are nothing compared to the likes of Elton John (who I don't like) or Aretha Franklin who I do. Maybe I'm just old.

Music wise I have three catagories I love - least importand first,

3: Any easy listening, Matt Monroe, Glenn Campbell and the Diamond. More nostalgia because thats what my parents liked.

2: Music I lived through, XTC, The Jam, The Cure, Phycadellic Furs, The Cult and the band that first got me listening, The Undertones, Stranglers, Buzzcocks and The Boomtown Rats. Most of whom Ive seen.

1: British 60's R&B and Beat Bands, I'm far to young but discoverd it in desperation after the first time I heard synth pop! I also at the same time stumbled upon a performance by Gerry and the Pacemakers at the theatre club and much to my astonishment really liked them.

Love them all really but my faves are The Kinks, Small Face, the Who and The Yardbirds and a few Yank ones like The Byrds and Creedance. Most of all I love the Stones, IMO the best band that this country ever produced both musically and in attitude. They don't get the kudos in this country they deserve because IMHO they had the audacity to become popular/succesfull/long lasting/and incredibly rich in that order, and we know how the British embrace a winner don't we

Oh and I've seen them eleven times but not in the last 20 years as even I concede that I probably saw them in there pomp so why spoil it. Wished I could have seen the Small Faces but I'm way to young and never managed the Who which I'd like.

I love Bowie but for some reason I don't think of him as a Rock star, more a performer and all round enigma.

Music I don't like is Queen and any other pomp rock bands, it may be good but it sure as hell isn't Rock'n'Roll, it's light entertainment to me. Rap, I just do not get it. I'm sure I've offended some but hey

I've almost got a like for like as far as bands from the 60s/70s but I have to admit the Rolling Stones never did anything for me and it's not as if i haven't heard most of their tracks because my mum loves them, she went to top of the pops in the 60's to watch them as well as other gigs at the time. Nothing to do with how popular or not embracing a winner, or care less about all that crap or any of the other things, especially when I've got Beatles, Floyd and Led Zep on the list 3 of the biggest selling acts ever. I will admit though I do like Paint it black but I'm not sure if that's from loving the film Platoon lol.

One other thing, wished I'd got to see the Small Faces too, but I suppose I was lucky enough I got to see The Who a couple of times though and everything you say about the Rolling Stones for me applies to them, for me the best live act ever with some of the most enduring songs as well . Shame they lost Moon and more recently Entwhistle but they're still going strong and just finished touring the US and have a gig in London tomorrow, wish I could go. I've missed so many recently last year at The Albert Hall, then Manchester, then Sheffield, bloody life keeps getting in the way lol.

A couple of bands I've not mentioned and I don't know how I forgot them were Joy Division and then from the ashes of that New Order, who I saw at the Hacienda a few times. Love both but particularly the darkness and lyrics if you can really enjoy them of Joy Division. Also went through a period of never really listening to anything, especially on long rides home from Uni in the car was Bob Dylan, never seen the dude though lol.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:59 am  

Emley Cat wrote:

Since getting into music through my dad when I was around 6 or 7 in the early 70's I've embraced every type of music and genre including RocknRoll, Pop, Easy Listening, Sunshine Pop, Singer Songwriters, Punk, Funk, Disco, Northern Soul, Soft Rock, Heavy Rock, Synth Pop, Europop, Tamla Motown etc etc the list is endless..

A man after my own heart.

Re: O/T If music be your love..... : Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:35 am  

Shifty Cat wrote:

I've almost got a like for like as far as bands from the 60s/70s but I have to admit the Rolling Stones never did anything for me and it's not as if i haven't heard most of their tracks because my mum loves them, she went to top of the pops in the 60's to watch them as well as other gigs at the time. Nothing to do with how popular or not embracing a winner, or care less about all that crap or any of the other things, especially when I've got Beatles, Floyd and Led Zep on the list 3 of the biggest selling acts ever. I will admit though I do like Paint it black but I'm not sure if that's from loving the film Platoon lol.

One other thing, wished I'd got to see the Small Faces too, but I suppose I was lucky enough I got to see The Who a couple of times though and everything you say about the Rolling Stones for me applies to them, for me the best live act ever with some of the most enduring songs as well . Shame they lost Moon and more recently Entwhistle but they're still going strong and just finished touring the US and have a gig in London tomorrow, wish I could go. I've missed so many recently last year at The Albert Hall, then Manchester, then Sheffield, bloody life keeps getting in the way lol.

A couple of bands I've not mentioned and I don't know how I forgot them were Joy Division and then from the ashes of that New Order, who I saw at the Hacienda a few times. Love both but particularly the darkness and lyrics if you can really enjoy them of Joy Division. Also went through a period of never really listening to anything, especially on long rides home from Uni in the car was Bob Dylan, never seen the dude though lol.

See I'm like that with the Beatles, I don't deny their genius but they don't rock me never have.

Stones are a fanatics band tbh although most people like yourself like certain tracks.

I don't expect everyone to like them, Jagger's voice alone is a put off for some. But that's what I like they are the ultimate garage band done good yet some of there work is exceptional.

Due to Richards habits and Jagger's libido I think they get trivialised in this country, in the states they are idolised yet we get giddy about Elton John. 24 proper albums of which 6 are genuine classics to me that says it all for me - the British public will take note when there dead I suppose

Obviously I'm a fanatic but there are others who fit in this catagory. I always preferred Blur to Oasis who were actually just a Beatles/ Stones hybrid. I preferred Spandau Ballet to the limp Duran Duran but then I did plump for Betamax over VHS