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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:46 pm  
:? :? :? :? :? Phew!!! I'm exhausted!!!!
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:49 pm  
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:? :? :? :? :? Phew!!! I'm exhausted!!!!


Like talking to a brick wall.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:08 pm  
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And at the risk of getting called a troll.......



Couldn't say that in all honesty

The reasons for your whinging about nothing you can actually justify, remain an unknown

but I suppose if it quacks like a duck, people will draw their own conclusions.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:16 pm  
Upanunder wrote:
Couldn't say that in all honesty

The reasons for your whinging about nothing you can actually justify, remain an unknown

but I suppose if it quacks like a duck, people will draw their own conclusions.


Have you actually read anything I’ve put? Everything I have about any other club is a fact. You obviously haven’t read it as I’ve confirmed I don’t know how many times that I’ve sorted my season ticket.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:22 pm  
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You’ve done me, I’m out. We just sit around all week playing championship manager


I never said that though did I, do as you please. Enjoy championship manager lad
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:30 pm  
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TheDreadnought, you do realise we have commit 6, £26 a month, gets you 6 lines in weekly 1873 draw and pays for the following years season ticket? That's spreading the cost over the year, plus chances of winning £250 each week.


I didn’t know that to be honest, double the initial 3 months that I thought but still more than Hull however I’ll admit it’s not as much as a increase.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:56 pm  
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It's one of the factors absolutely, I won't deny that but I am asking what the club (and other clubs in SL) are doing in the background to compete with NRL prices, £80 season tickets and £19.99pm plans. All of which I am not speculating about, I'm providing facts.

More realistic pricing or payment options to me *key word* could bring more fans, shop sales and match day profit on consumables.

Does anyone know how many season tickets we sold last year?


We aren't competing with the NRL. No one is going to say, "£25 to go to Belle Vue. Outrageous. I'm off to Melbourne instead."

My comment about the general admission prices when I went to Aus in April was to put in context the Melbourne season ticket prices, in that they are consistent with the single ticket prices, not that we are overpriced.

Cutting season ticket prices doesn't work. Remember the Bradford £80 tickets, a third of the normal cost? If they sold three times as many, they only make the same amount of money as they did before, BUT lose the "on the day" gate money the other two thirds would bring. And if you remember, Bradford went bust straight after. Bradford assumed that fans would spend money on consumables. They didn't. If someone wants to buy a burger at a game, they will. No one will buy a burger they wouldn't ordinarily buy just because they got a cheap season ticket six months earlier.

What brings crowds, and money, in sport is success. To get success, you've got to be able to buy the best players, which means finding the resources, not gambling it all on consumers, who are traditionally from a less weathy demographic, on turning up in droves to witness a bargain basement team try to win, purely on the basis of it being cheap.

We're in the entertainment business. To attract crowds, you have to entertain. To entertain, you have to have the players. To have the players, you have to have the guaranteed income.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:58 pm  
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I never said that though did I, do as you please. Enjoy championship manager lad


What you don't seem to get is although you think you are having a lively debate you don't take on what other people say and accuse them of not reading yours.

You imply in your questioning that you think the reason we are not like Melbourne Storm is through lack of effort. You've been around long enough to see there is effort in what the club does. The issue is money.
Melbourne and even Huddersfield have money in the city and money that sees value in investing in rugby league. Wakefield isn't like that.

Even in the 70s when we had a new era building, we had to sell and with the greatest respect replaced with older has beens. Having David Topliss and Trevor Sjerret plating for us still didn't give us Leeds type crowds. When they went to Hull it drew people in.

So asking MC what he has done to compete with NRL or teams with sugar daddy investors is naive at best.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:04 pm  
And if you are in sales Dreadnought you'll know that there is an optimal price to get maximum profit.

We are not trying to get big crowds, we are trying to raise revenue. Selling cheap may improve crowd size but doesn't get you a profit if you are too cheap.

We have form on the board showing how it can go wrong.
We have far more options for ST than we've ever had. More merchandise at better quality. More ways for sponsors to invest.

So unless you have a plan that we can actually discuss that isn't just asking what we do, you are not going to get a debate.
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Re: season ticket deadline ? : Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:30 am  
What I imply and what others presume I’m implying could be two completely different things Poptart. Throughout the whole thing I’ve not once said copy Melbourne, go get 26.5m worth of funding or more importantly compete with Melbourne. I only used them as an example of what is being offered elsewhere to outline where we could potentially be aiming for.

I’ll go back all the way to page 2, what seems like a lifetime ago now lol

I totally understand the reason Melbourne are able to offer prices like that, including tickets on the day and I realise we couldn’t survive whilst offering tickets so cheap.

It would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?


Key parts for me based on what others have said, not once do I confirm we would survive based on offering the prices that Melbourne do, I don’t mention competing I asked what we are doing to mimic the deals, nothing specific just the ways of working in general (all I’ve had back is confirming we can’t ask the council for 26.5m).

I was given a straight answer on the last point however.

Poptart you mention we are not trying to get big crowds and again I’ll refer back to MC’s comments after the London game but also reiterate it could have been in jest (yet to be confirmed); If only we could get the same amount of fans to buy season tickets. Not word for word don’t get me wrong but definitely something with a similar message behind it.

8 pages worth of conversation where I have backed up my points when required but also more than once confirmed I agree with a hell of a lot that’s been said.

I’ve never said MC/Staff do nothing all week, initially I only even said clubs like Wakefield do the same goes for Castleford as they have basically the same structure as we do!

What if I was to tell you I don’t have the answer for the club, do I have to stop posting about it because others clearly don’t agree with me? I thought this was the point of the forum, to discuss RL. I don’t know what I am supposed to have not taken on board, having read the thread from start to finish again any question I’ve replied to has been with a counter argument based on my opinion.

I’ve questioned a hell of a lot on here today but with that said I don’t think any of it is out of turn especially considering if I have made a point I have backed it up with the proof, even if people want to exclude Huddersfield because of Davy the Hull KR point still stands, I held my hands up because I didn’t know about the commit 6 option but it’s still whilst marginal a more costly option that what our competitors are offering.

Anyway, peace out guys. Have a great weekend, stay safe and if I don’t log on tomorrow or Sunday, I’ll catch up with you all Monday morning.
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