Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:16 am  

PopTart wrote:

I agree. There has to be a change.
I'm just making the point that wins will bring people in, not Chester's contract.

With that in mind, which would you prefer.
In the new league system.
Scrape occasional wins to stay in SL 1 or dominate SL 2?

Oh come on now !!!
SL 2 is a poor mans championship and from what I have heard will have no more money probably less. How will they club service their loan to survive. Its SL1 or bust.
However in all fairness, everything about Wakey at the moment stinks of a poor championship out fit. Hand on heart the club fails in so many areas to be seen as a credible member of the top 10.

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:51 am  

PopTart wrote:

Fans, as we are making clear on here are very fickle.
If he gets his new deal and sign and great player or two they'll stay,.
If we win games. They'll stay.
The world doesn't revolve around Chester's contract.

All the drama queening on here is as depressing as the performance yesterday.

CC bringing in 'new' players is like taking flat batteries out of a remote control car and putting them on a warm radiator. You put them back in and they work great for a short time, then they end up no better than before after while.
Short term gain for long term pain.
It is the CC contract situation that is putting people off and if you can't see that, you're blinkered.

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:04 pm  

A new signing would automatically generate enthusiasm but I sense that we have gone so far down it will change nothing because we all know what the end result will be.

[PopTart]

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:33 pm  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

CC bringing in 'new' players is like taking flat batteries out of a remote control car and putting them on a warm radiator. You put them back in and they work great for a short time, then they end up no better than before after while.
Short term gain for long term pain.
It is the CC contract situation that is putting people off and if you can't see that, you're blinkered.

I'm not blinkered to CC. I seem to be blinkered to the putting people off bit.
There is a lot of talk but so far numbers don't seem to be down as we are restricted anyway.
I can't see it being a big crowd v Warrington, though I'll be there, but a good performance will soon change minds short term.

So I just feel like the world is going to end brigade are quoting facts that haven't actually happened yet.
Not saying they are wrong, but it's not as simple as changing Chester will make the world beautiful again.

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:41 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Fans, as we are making clear on here are very fickle.
If he gets his new deal and sign and great player or two they'll stay,.
If we win games. They'll stay.
The world doesn't revolve around Chester's contract.

All the drama queening on here is as depressing as the performance yesterday.

It doesnt matter who they sign while he is in charge he proved for 3 years now he isnt good enough.if you go on social media there is many a person saying they wont be renewing season tickets people who have previously backed him.i look at you and vastman for example never really been against him vastman as said enough is enough and i can sense yourself changing too (not a dig at either of you) i wont be renewing mine no matter who they sign and wont be attending for the rest of this season this kills me i love the club i love nothing than going to games home and away.but im not prepared to give my hard earned no more and with others doing the same it doesnt bode well for the future of the club yet one man goes and there be some optimistic people changing there minds me included.it also to the point now it feels mc dont care about fans as long as his buddy is ok and im forever grateful for what mc as done for this club bit he really is undoing it all now..i have been told that a 3 year deal as been signed by cc which if so why and why hasnt it been announced.

Yesterday was the final straw not the defeat but the manner and circumstances and after match excuse

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:42 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I'm not blinkered to CC. I seem to be blinkered to the putting people off bit.
There is a lot of talk but so far numbers don't seem to be down as we are restricted anyway.
I can't see it being a big crowd v Warrington, though I'll be there, but a good performance will soon change minds short term.

So I just feel like the world is going to end brigade are quoting facts that haven't actually happened yet.
Not saying they are wrong, but it's not as simple as changing Chester will make the world beautiful again.

I presume I am right in thinking you believe things need to change.
You are also correct that simply removing Chester will not make things suddenly perfect.
However change is needed and I believe the ideal place to start is by replacing the head coach.
Without change that ,everything else would be an exercise in futility

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:45 pm  

I was informed it was a three year deal but could not believe it.

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:46 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

I presume I am right in thinking you believe things need to change.
You are also correct that simply removing Chester will not make things suddenly perfect.
However change is needed and I believe the ideal place to start is by replacing the head coach.
Without change that ,everything else would be an exercise in futility

If he has signed 4 players already then we're already down a stupid path if any new coach doesn't fancy the players. So either way we're making a mess of it

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Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:48 pm  

But for me,
I don't know anyone who isn't going now..... But I'm sure some will stop.
I certainly haven't seen anything official about a new contract for Chester, just hearsay

As I've said over and over, I'm not blindly backing Chester. I can't see how he can continue personally, but too many people are throwing facts around that are just plainly not true.
It gets in the way of understanding what is going on.

I don't know Carter well but he doesn't strike me as someone too soft to sack someone. It's Scarlett that has generated that myth just because that's what he does.

Re: WAKE UP CARTER : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:52 pm  

PopTart wrote:

I'm not blinkered to CC. I seem to be blinkered to the putting people off bit.
There is a lot of talk but so far numbers don't seem to be down as we are restricted anyway.
I can't see it being a big crowd v Warrington, though I'll be there, but a good performance will soon change minds short term.

So I just feel like the world is going to end brigade are quoting facts that haven't actually happened yet.
Not saying they are wrong, but it's not as simple as changing Chester will make the world beautiful again.

When we lost in the past, on a Monday I'd be saying that I'd never go again but by Wednesday I was coming round and by Friday couldn't wait to go to the game, because at that time you knew if you didn't go, you'd miss the team bounce back.
Sadly not anymore, it doesn't hurt anymore and has someone else mentioned, it's now 'accepted' that we're going to lose and some are happy if we get 'close'.
Well if that's the mindset running through the club we are doomed!