Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:23 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It is nothing to do with MC it is all to do with you who seems to change the boundaries of your statements to fit your arguments. Why don’t you just try to say what I originally posted was wrong and this has been pointed out to me. It is much easier than trying to twist the situation because you made no reference to a time period just that MC had never sold a star player whilst he has been in charge.

Being a pedant is the sure sign of someone who’s lost the argument.

Despite you’re attempts to twist things the general thrust of my argument, regardless of exact dates, is that we are no longer a selling club and have not been so once MC gained financial stability.

Are you disagreeing with that? Or are you arguing for the sake of it?

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:29 pm  

supercat wrote:

Kyle Amor

Enough said

Not really, Amor signed for St Helens in September 2013 well before Carters time.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:34 pm  

vastman wrote:

It’s only all out war in the eyes of two posters as far as I can see.

Whenever Wakefield do well so called RL sites and opposition fans suddenly zone in a player, this time it’s Lino.

When you think that since MC took over we haven’t lost a single star player who was under contract then it gets tedious.

Frankly some people will believe anything no matter how unlikely so long as it’s a negative.

Is this what you posted which clearly states that since MC took over we haven’t lost a single contracted star player. I have shown we have but apparently I have lost the argument because I should have known you were referring to a period when he was in control but after the club had offloaded several contracted players to reduce the wage bill. If you had said this then yes you would have been correct but you didn’t so you are wrong, which appears to be a position you find difficult to accept.
I think what you should do is just stop digging because you cannot be correct when the evidence is clear disproving your statement. This was an angle you tried when you said that MC had sacked both Agar and Webster which was also untrue but once again you came back saying that they jumped before they were pushed no they weren’t they resigned but you would not accept this.
If anybody looks to twist the facts to cover up their obvious failings it is you.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:36 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Not really, Amor signed for St Helens in September 2013 well before Carters time.

Correct.

It was also a dream move for Amor, don’t think it would have mattered who was in charge I seriously doubt anyone could have stopped him going.

Some fans need to accept that not every player leaving is the fault of the club, it’s a free country.

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Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:42 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Is this what you posted which clearly states that since MC took over we haven’t lost a single contracted star player. I have shown we have but apparently I have lost the argument because I should have known you were referring to a period when he was in control but after the club had offloaded several contracted players to reduce the wage bill. If you had said this then yes you would have been correct but you didn’t so you are wrong, which appears to be a position you find difficult to accept.
I think what you should do is just stop digging because you cannot be correct when the evidence is clear disproving your statement. This was an angle you tried when you said that MC had sacked both Agar and Webster which was also untrue but once again you came back saying that they jumped before they were pushed no they weren’t they resigned but you would not accept this.
If anybody looks to twist the facts to cover up their obvious failings it is you.

I'm afraid you are arguing with yourself now.

As a pedant myself I understand what you are saying and you are technically right, but we all know that wasn't the intention of the post.
So you are right if that helps you let this go, but unfortunately, the point Vastman was trying to make which he has clarified is also right.
There isn't really anything left to argue about.

Re: Mason lino : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:46 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Is this what you posted which clearly states that since MC took over we haven’t lost a single contracted star player. I have shown we have but apparently I have lost the argument because I should have known you were referring to a period when he was in control but after the club had offloaded several contracted players to reduce the wage bill. If you had said this then yes you would have been correct but you didn’t so you are wrong, which appears to be a position you find difficult to accept.
I think what you should do is just stop digging because you cannot be correct when the evidence is clear disproving your statement. This was an angle you tried when you said that MC had sacked both Agar and Webster which was also untrue but once again you came back saying that they jumped before they were pushed no they weren’t they resigned but you would not accept this.
If anybody looks to twist the facts to cover up their obvious failings it is you.

No the question is what does it matter. This is a forum not a court of law. The general thrust of my argument was that since MC has been in charge we have ceased to be a selling club, so do you or do yo not agree that we no longer sell players to balance the books, yes or no?

Whether it that began in 2013 or 2015 is a petty irrelevance, or it would be for anyone who didn’t seemingly have a personal dislike for MC and let’s be honest you clearly don’t t like the man.

And please don’t use the MC and vastman kissing in a tree argument, I’ve met the man once and you know what, we never talked about player contracts, how odd

Re: Mason lino : Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:05 am  

We have definitely stopped been a selling club since mc took over yes in the early days he may of let 1or 2 go ie tim smith but we were in the poop when he first arrived financially and things needed to be done.but even then certain players still stayed ie danny kirmond he could of been sold more than once but he wasnt more recently im sure kelepi dave tommy could of all been sold but they havent.im sure in the future offers will come in for players and i am confident mc will do whats best for the club.

MC at times gets some stick from some fans and while i agree he can be too loyal at times he is very good at what he does amdif i where to win the euromillions id certainly trust him to run the club with the millionsi would put in( i certainly couldnt run it)

Re: Mason lino : Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:03 am  

I am not having a go at MC he did what he felt necessary I am just pointing out your error once again trying to make an incorrect statement. The reason you do this is irrelevant but for once try to admit based on your post the fact quoted was not correct.

Re: Mason lino : Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:15 am  

chissitt wrote:

Not really, Amor signed for St Helens in September 2013 well before Carters time.

Glover left in august 2013

Armor smith and cockayne all left after this in September

Re: Mason lino : Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:23 am  

If you put Andrew glover leaves Wakefield into google it pretty much tells you he left and Michael was voted in really quick and then he called and emergency meeting inviting fans to understand what’s happened. I was there and he specifically told the fans we had to sell star players otherwise administrators would be calling.