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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:28 am  
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We beat Cas and ibeleive the ref as well, without doubt 8f he could have swung it in Cas favour he would have.


This is really what I was getting at - we gave the referee no chance to get to us because we did everything right. We need the same attitude against Catalans.
If we get drawn into the style of rugby we played prior to Saints, then sorry but we're our own worst enemies because we provide ammunition for the referee to penalise us. Let's face it we were dire at times!
Now, having said all that, I dislike Kendal as a referee. He seems to make his own rules up and he's arrogant.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:47 am  
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This is really what I was getting at - we gave the referee no chance to get to us because we did everything right. We need the same attitude against Catalans.
If we get drawn into the style of rugby we played prior to Saints, then sorry but we're our own worst enemies because we provide ammunition for the referee to penalise us. Let's face it we were dire at times!
Now, having said all that, I dislike Kendal as a referee. He seems to make his own rules up and he's arrogant.


Correct and its hard to believe that's been rectified completely. In truth it's only a matter of time before the discipline slips, we just have to hope it doesn't slip all the way. I've watched a lot of our games again this year (painful as it was) and 90% of the penalties were justified. Some were tight but once you get the Ref on a roll it's your own fault.

It's not fitness, lack of pace ore go forward that's destroyed us this year. It's simply been a case of choosing not to play the game right. Too many penalties, too many basic errors, far too many forced passes and kicks at the wrong time. Thats whats made the last two games so good, it's been like watching a professional team. If we can stick to the above for the rest of the season we have a chance. We will have more bad games I'm certain, we are just that kind of team and that can't change in a month.

If things work for us two more wins might do it, three almost certainly. Three is a 50% success rate, when you think JK had to more or less do a 100% in 2006 in six games then it's possible but still very difficult.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:03 am  
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We beat Cas and ibeleive the ref as well, without doubt 8f he could have swung it in Cas favour he would have.


Yep without the video ref we'd have struggled....
Gave theirs as a try - which would have made it 6-6, but was overturned eventually and correctly by Smith.
Gave Lewis' as a no try which was correctly overturned.
That would have made a massive difference at the time....
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 pm  
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This is of course the hardest of the three games.

Against Saints there was nothing to lose as nobody expected anything much.

Ditto Cas if not more so.

Now suddenly there is expectation in the air again and let’s be honest if the last three seasons are anything to go by we don’t handle it well.

What’s done it for us in the last two games imho is composure. We cut out most of the errors and virtually all the indiscipline.

If we revert to silly panic RL and start to believe we are superstars as happened post Warrington we are back to square one.

As ever this season Sunday depends on which Trinity turns up. Long way to go yet.


I have heard a rumour ,but I dont know how credible, that it was party time after beating Cas. I have no problem with the players celebrating a win and its a 9 day turn round so its fair enough in that sense also. What worries is me is exactly what you have alluded to. They may now think they are actually better than they are, job has been done and we are safe. It must be drilled into them that the hard work has only just started and there is a long way to go.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:02 pm  
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This is of course the hardest of the three games.

Against Saints there was nothing to lose as nobody expected anything much.

Ditto Cas if not more so.

Now suddenly there is expectation in the air again and let’s be honest if the last three seasons are anything to go by we don’t handle it well.

What’s done it for us in the last two games imho is composure. We cut out most of the errors and virtually all the indiscipline.

If we revert to silly panic RL and start to believe we are superstars as happened post Warrington we are back to square one.

As ever this season Sunday depends on which Trinity turns up. Long way to go yet.


I have heard a rumour ,but I dont know how credible, that it was party time after beating Cas. I have no problem with the players celebrating a win and its a 9 day turn round so its fair enough in that sense also. What worries is me is exactly what you have alluded to. They may now think they are actually better than they are, job has been done and we are safe. It must be drilled into them that the hard work has only just started and there is a long way to go.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:33 pm  
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I have heard a rumour ,but I dont know how credible, that it was party time after beating Cas. I have no problem with the players celebrating a win and its a 9 day turn round so its fair enough in that sense also. What worries is me is exactly what you have alluded to. They may now think they are actually better than they are, job has been done and we are safe. It must be drilled into them that the hard work has only just started and there is a long way to go.


I get your point but to be fair a number of these players have been ritually humiliated by Cas in the last 7 seasons. This really was an extraordinary win because it wasn't just about the 2 points it was about genuine personal pride. All the games to come are only about the points and much as I despair of this current squad at times I think they know that. My issue is whether they have the ability rather than the will to repeat the trick 2-3 more times.

Funny, if at the start of the season you'd have said we'd end up on 16 or even 18 points you would have felt that would be more than enough to safely stay up. It's been a brutal season and one of the tightest I can recall. Even the top team has lost 4 games and may well lose a few more. I don't know whether this indicates a more even league, stronger or weaker, but it's certainly competitive.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:38 pm  
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I have heard a rumour ,but I dont know how credible, that it was party time after beating Cas. I have no problem with the players celebrating a win and its a 9 day turn round so its fair enough in that sense also. What worries is me is exactly what you have alluded to. They may now think they are actually better than they are, job has been done and we are safe. It must be drilled into them that the hard work has only just started and there is a long way to go.


I reckon it was massive massive party time for anyone involved with the club after that result. A significant victory in so many ways.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:46 pm  
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:58 pm  
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Funny, if at the start of the season you'd have said we'd end up on 16 or even 18 points /quote]
That has been brought about by Trin. Win all three games against Tolouse and even 12pts may have been enough.
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Re: Catalans up next : Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:06 pm  
Two decent performances are usually followed by a set of drab ones. Like many others I fear it's the classic Trinity form to lull us all into expecting something from a game only to get our backsides handed to us.

Whatever has been the message over the past two games needs to be followed again. The intensity in defence is a must, no more easy yards, no more waiting for the ball carrier. Move up as one.
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