Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:53 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote: :CLAP: This could be a good place to end the chat. No, this would be a good place for you to leave the chat then the we, plus the contributors to the 21,977 views can carry on in peace without you. Bye Bye Or better still. Why not start your own thread titled "THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON . Here, I'll start if off for you. But you will have to realist this won't be just about covid. If it ever was. So, fill yer boots. In China, authorities are using technology to track healthy people -- and those who pose a risk. Residents are assigned color-coded QR codes on their phones. The color determines what they're able to do. In Wuhan, China, where the lockdown has been lifted, residents need to produce a green QR code on their phones to leave their homes. To get into places such as restaurants, people need to show a green QR code. Harvard's Safra Centre said people not in a "high-risk" population could move about freely. Their location on public transport could be tracked on "privacy-protective QR scanning." Additionally, the Centre's paper said, thermal scanning devices in public spaces "can help spot outbreaks and support contact tracing" -- tracking down sick people, isolating them and then tracing everyone with whom they've been in contact and putting those people into quarantine. A report by the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank said home isolation can be enforced using GPS tracking on phone apps. Jeffrey Shaman, a professor of environmental health sciences at Columbia University, said South Korea is using "very aggressive" contact tracing which looks into personal credit cards and phone records and car GPS information "The reality is your credit card company is already using this on you," he said. "You signed it when you signed the contract that was in the fine print there, and they were using for whatever the heck they wanted to do with it to make money. And your phone is already using it. That's what all the phone companies do, they track you. And lots of other apps on your phones do also." "Things are just going to be different," he said. "And that's the sad truth." https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/c ... index.html

wrencat1873 wrote: :CLAP: This could be a good place to end the chat. No, this would be a good place for you to leave the chat then the we, plus the contributors to the 21,977 views can carry on in peace without you. Bye Bye Or better still. Why not start your own thread titled "THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON . Here, I'll start if off for you. But you will have to realist this won't be just about covid. If it ever was. So, fill yer boots. In China, authorities are using technology to track healthy people -- and those who pose a risk. Residents are assigned color-coded QR codes on their phones. The color determines what they're able to do. In Wuhan, China, where the lockdown has been lifted, residents need to produce a green QR code on their phones to leave their homes. To get into places such as restaurants, people need to show a green QR code. Harvard's Safra Centre said people not in a "high-risk" population could move about freely. Their location on public transport could be tracked on "privacy-protective QR scanning." Additionally, the Centre's paper said, thermal scanning devices in public spaces "can help spot outbreaks and support contact tracing" -- tracking down sick people, isolating them and then tracing everyone with whom they've been in contact and putting those people into quarantine. A report by the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank said home isolation can be enforced using GPS tracking on phone apps. Jeffrey Shaman, a professor of environmental health sciences at Columbia University, said South Korea is using "very aggressive" contact tracing which looks into personal credit cards and phone records and car GPS information "The reality is your credit card company is already using this on you," he said. "You signed it when you signed the contract that was in the fine print there, and they were using for whatever the heck they wanted to do with it to make money. And your phone is already using it. That's what all the phone companies do, they track you. And lots of other apps on your phones do also." "Things are just going to be different," he said. "And that's the sad truth." https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/c ... index.html

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:03 pm  

Miro wrote:

Another extremely thought provoking and informative post from you Billy. How do you do it?

About as thought provoking as the pages and pages of sh*te you’ve spent hours of your life posting.

I said in my first post that to try and reason with somebody with an obvious paranoid psychosis was a complete waste of time. I think that’s been well and truly proven.

Get help or you’ll live the rest of your life in fear.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:10 pm  

Billy Butcher wrote:

About as thought provoking as the pages and pages of sh*te you’ve spent hours of your life posting.

I said in my first post that to try and reason with somebody with an obvious paranoid psychosis was a complete waste of time. I think that’s been well and truly proven.

Get help.

" paranoid psychosis" Charming.
So why are you still here? It's obvious you only joined RL fans to come on here. Post 12?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:20 pm  

Miro wrote: No, this would be a good place for you to leave the chat then the we, plus the contributors to the 21,977 views can carry on in peace without you. Bye Bye Or better still. Why not start your own thread titled "THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON . Here, I'll start if off for you. But you will have to realist this won't be just about covid. If it ever was. So, fill yer boots. In China, authorities are using technology to track healthy people -- and those who pose a risk. Residents are assigned color-coded QR codes on their phones. The color determines what they're able to do. In Wuhan, China, where the lockdown has been lifted, residents need to produce a green QR code on their phones to leave their homes. To get into places such as restaurants, people need to show a green QR code. Harvard's Safra Centre said people not in a "high-risk" population could move about freely. Their location on public transport could be tracked on "privacy-protective QR scanning." Additionally, the Centre's paper said, thermal scanning devices in public spaces "can help spot outbreaks and support contact tracing" -- tracking down sick people, isolating them and then tracing everyone with whom they've been in contact and putting those people into quarantine. A report by the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank said home isolation can be enforced using GPS tracking on phone apps. Jeffrey Shaman, a professor of environmental health sciences at Columbia University, said South Korea is using "very aggressive" contact tracing which looks into personal credit cards and phone records and car GPS information "The reality is your credit card company is already using this on you," he said. "You signed it when you signed the contract that was in the fine print there, and they were using for whatever the heck they wanted to do with it to make money. And your phone is already using it. That's what all the phone companies do, they track you. And lots of other apps on your phones do also." "Things are just going to be different," he said. "And that's the sad truth." https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/c ... index.html Is this the same China that is "part of the great re set" or the same China that cot the "fake virus" under control or, the same China that, having just about come through the other side (for now) is going to do quite well as the first "major" economy to recover. You really do have a number of different hat's in your wardrobe, dont you. A cherry picked quote doesn't tell the story and can be taken out of context by some (no names mentioned). Never mind, Mr Farage is coming to save us (again) so everything will be ok

Miro wrote: No, this would be a good place for you to leave the chat then the we, plus the contributors to the 21,977 views can carry on in peace without you. Bye Bye Or better still. Why not start your own thread titled "THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON . Here, I'll start if off for you. But you will have to realist this won't be just about covid. If it ever was. So, fill yer boots. In China, authorities are using technology to track healthy people -- and those who pose a risk. Residents are assigned color-coded QR codes on their phones. The color determines what they're able to do. In Wuhan, China, where the lockdown has been lifted, residents need to produce a green QR code on their phones to leave their homes. To get into places such as restaurants, people need to show a green QR code. Harvard's Safra Centre said people not in a "high-risk" population could move about freely. Their location on public transport could be tracked on "privacy-protective QR scanning." Additionally, the Centre's paper said, thermal scanning devices in public spaces "can help spot outbreaks and support contact tracing" -- tracking down sick people, isolating them and then tracing everyone with whom they've been in contact and putting those people into quarantine. A report by the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank said home isolation can be enforced using GPS tracking on phone apps. Jeffrey Shaman, a professor of environmental health sciences at Columbia University, said South Korea is using "very aggressive" contact tracing which looks into personal credit cards and phone records and car GPS information "The reality is your credit card company is already using this on you," he said. "You signed it when you signed the contract that was in the fine print there, and they were using for whatever the heck they wanted to do with it to make money. And your phone is already using it. That's what all the phone companies do, they track you. And lots of other apps on your phones do also." "Things are just going to be different," he said. "And that's the sad truth." https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/16/us/c ... index.html Is this the same China that is "part of the great re set" or the same China that cot the "fake virus" under control or, the same China that, having just about come through the other side (for now) is going to do quite well as the first "major" economy to recover. You really do have a number of different hat's in your wardrobe, dont you. A cherry picked quote doesn't tell the story and can be taken out of context by some (no names mentioned). Never mind, Mr Farage is coming to save us (again) so everything will be ok

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:59 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Is this the same China that is "part of the great re set" or the same China that cot the "fake virus" under control or, the same China that, having just about come through the other side (for now) is going to do quite well as the first "major" economy to recover.
You really do have a number of different hat's in your wardrobe, dont you.

A cherry picked quote doesn't tell the story and can be taken out of context by some (no names mentioned).

Never mind, Mr Farage is coming to save us (again) so everything will be ok

You still here?

Wonderful news, I assume, that China has recovered. Wonderful news for the Chinese that the surveillance bugging their lives will now be confined to the dust bin. Wonderful news that social crediting will now be phased out over there.
Please say it's so wrencat.

But hang on. This is the wrong thread wrencat. you need the:

"WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON."

I promise not to interfere.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm  

Seems a few of you are ganging up on me today (Paranoid, me??) Well, here are the rules from your Lord and masters on how to deal with those of us who dare to question, or, in their words, anti-social behavior instead of blindly following the powers that be. Social disapproval: Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing anti-social behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour (15). However, this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scape goating and misdirected criticism. It needs to be accompanied by clear messaging and promotion of strong collective identity. Consideration should be given to use of social disapproval but with a strong caveat around unwanted negative consequences. Persuasion Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened;it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group(8), although levels of concern may be rising(9). Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10).The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,using hard-hitting Evaluation of options for increasing social distancing Page 2 emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat (11). h "pro-social behavior" No, this is not from a communist manifesto of the old USSR or N Korea. Come on guys, more emotion. "Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures" Hmm I mean, surely it's not just about sending a signal. NO, forget I said anything, As you were. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 032020.pdf

Seems a few of you are ganging up on me today (Paranoid, me??) Well, here are the rules from your Lord and masters on how to deal with those of us who dare to question, or, in their words, anti-social behavior instead of blindly following the powers that be. Social disapproval: Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing anti-social behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour (15). However, this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scape goating and misdirected criticism. It needs to be accompanied by clear messaging and promotion of strong collective identity. Consideration should be given to use of social disapproval but with a strong caveat around unwanted negative consequences. Persuasion Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened;it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group(8), although levels of concern may be rising(9). Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10).The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,using hard-hitting Evaluation of options for increasing social distancing Page 2 emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat (11). h "pro-social behavior" No, this is not from a communist manifesto of the old USSR or N Korea. Come on guys, more emotion. "Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures" Hmm I mean, surely it's not just about sending a signal. NO, forget I said anything, As you were. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 032020.pdf

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:26 pm  

Miro wrote:

You still here?

Wonderful news, I assume, that China has recovered. Wonderful news for the Chinese that the surveillance bugging their lives will now be confined to the dust bin. Wonderful news that social crediting will now be phased out over there.
Please say it's so wrencat.

But hang on. This is the wrong thread wrencat. you need the:

"WONDERFUL WORLD OF KEEPING US ALL SAFE......WHAT NOW FOR FANS WANTING TO WATCH RUGBY.....BRING IT ON."

I promise not to interfere.

Oh dear

You're beginning to sound like a dictator that wishes to be beyond question.
The irony isn't lost on me,

You've basically got nothing, other than you're own vivid imagination to back up your own argument.
Mind you there are plenty of conspiracists desperate to find something, anything so, do keep looking.
Some of it is really rather entertaining.

Every government on the planet, regardless of their political persuasion and political motivations suckered in by your "world reset" theory and thank the lord that YOU can see that everyone else is wrong.

I'm just chuffed to bits that you're a Trinity fan or we would have been oblivious to it all.

In years to come, people will flock to Wakefield with tales on how Miro and Matthew saved the world.

Maybe we could celebrate with fireworks on Thursday, maybe we could make it an annual thing.
The last 426 years might just have been "practice" for when Miro was the all seeing eye.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:27 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Oh dear

You're beginning to sound like a dictator that wishes to be beyond question.
The irony isn't lost on me,

You've basically got nothing, other than you're own vivid imagination to back up your own argument.
Mind you there are plenty of conspiracists desperate to find something, anything so, do keep looking.
Some of it is really rather entertaining.

Every government on the planet, regardless of their political persuasion and political motivations suckered in by your "world reset" theory and thank the lord that YOU can see that everyone else is wrong.

I'm just chuffed to bits that you're a Trinity fan or we would have been oblivious to it all.

In years to come, people will flock to Wakefield with tales on how Mir and Matthew saved the world.

Maybe we could celebrate with fireworks on Thursday, maybe we could make it an annual thing.
The last 426 years might just have been "practice" for when Miro was the all seeing eye.

Yup.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:27 pm  

Miro wrote: Seems a few of you are ganging up on me today (Paranoid, me??) Well, here are the rules from your Lord and masters on how to deal with those of us who dare to question, or, in their words, anti-social behavior instead of blindly following the powers that be. Social disapproval: Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing anti-social behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour (15). However, this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scape goating and misdirected criticism. It needs to be accompanied by clear messaging and promotion of strong collective identity. Consideration should be given to use of social disapproval but with a strong caveat around unwanted negative consequences. Persuasion Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened;it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group(8), although levels of concern may be rising(9). Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10).The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,using hard-hitting Evaluation of options for increasing social distancing Page 2 emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat (11). h "pro-social behavior" No, this is not from a communist manifesto of the old USSR or N Korea. Come on guys, more emotion. "Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures" Hmm I mean, surely it's not just about sending a signal. NO, forget I said anything, As you were. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 032020.pdf It's flat I tell thee, definitely flat

Miro wrote: Seems a few of you are ganging up on me today (Paranoid, me??) Well, here are the rules from your Lord and masters on how to deal with those of us who dare to question, or, in their words, anti-social behavior instead of blindly following the powers that be. Social disapproval: Social disapproval from one’s community can play an important role in preventing anti-social behaviour or discouraging failure to enact pro-social behaviour (15). However, this needs to be carefully managed to avoid victimisation, scape goating and misdirected criticism. It needs to be accompanied by clear messaging and promotion of strong collective identity. Consideration should be given to use of social disapproval but with a strong caveat around unwanted negative consequences. Persuasion Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened;it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group(8), although levels of concern may be rising(9). Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10).The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent,using hard-hitting Evaluation of options for increasing social distancing Page 2 emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat (11). h "pro-social behavior" No, this is not from a communist manifesto of the old USSR or N Korea. Come on guys, more emotion. "Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures" Hmm I mean, surely it's not just about sending a signal. NO, forget I said anything, As you were. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 032020.pdf It's flat I tell thee, definitely flat

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:37 pm  

Miro wrote:

Then please present your "fact". I can only assume you have access to the inner circle just like you had to Bush And Blair's inner circle prior to the illegal invasion of Iraq. I assume you did anyway.

I can't wait, just what we've all been waiting for. The facts at last.

There you go you get asked for facts and turn it around then go off at a tangent now with Blair et al over the Iraq war you couldn't make it up