Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:28 pm  

vastman wrote:

Well in typical style MC has managed to crush a huge positive on Saturday with an overblown negative as far as I can see.
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Agreed.

The number of fans who are responsible for these events is probably less than the number of Wakefield fans who have recently contributed to Aardvarks charity run and the Danny Jones Fund. Haven't noticed the club statement regarding those!

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:30 pm  

It doesn't help when people post on the Bradford forum, apologising for the big bad Wakefield fans, but praising the wonderful Bradford travelling support - that just feeds the myth that Bradford were blameless and it's all the fault of the big bad Wakefield hooligans.

I heard plenty of effing and jeffing from many Bradford fans on Saturday, and a good few subjectively 'offensive' songs; I also encountered a number of affable Bradford fans who were disappointed with their teams performance, but remained sensible about it. I'm not daft enough to believe that either group represents Bradford fans in totality - because there's no such entity; just as there's no such entity that represents all Wakefield fans. A crowd of people is impossible to characterise, and it's a logical fallacy to attempt to do so.

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Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:11 pm  

The shame is it started off so well with an impeccable minutes silence.
I guess some just get carried away but I didn't see or hear and problem from either set.

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:55 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Surprised Humphrey is not here to stick up for his mates again.

My mates weren't there on Saturday but thank you for caring

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:21 pm  

Just heard the RFL are now investigating on local news.

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:50 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

You are right that complaints should be taken seriously but, group's of BOTH sets of supporters were as daft as each other.
I don't condone the chanting by the Wakefield fans but the "banter" (I think that's the modern phrase for insulting someone) was going in both
directions.

So lets root out the culprits and deal with them.

Having said that, there were several hundred Bulls fans (women and children included) joining in with the "same family" chant, or was that one ok because there weren't any expletives in it.

What message does that send out to the families that were at the game

Some of the chanting started off as a banter but it definitely overstepped what I would consider as 'banter'. As I've previously posted, I don't expect not to hear a few expletives from the crowd in the heat of the moment and I'm as guilty as anyone for that. And I can't tell you why the drummer group insist on signing the 'you're all one family' I'm certainly not condoning it and I wish they'd just concentrate on getting behind the team.

But there is a very clear line that has been crossed when the chants become racial and whilst I didn't personally notice the song about the Bradford fire that is also very clearly beyond 'banter'. I don't think you can label the above as 'fans just being daft'.

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:03 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Some of the chanting started off as a banter but it definitely overstepped what I would consider as 'banter'. As I've previously posted, I don't expect not to hear a few expletives from the crowd in the heat of the moment and I'm as guilty as anyone for that. And I can't tell you why the drummer group insist on signing the 'you're all one family' I'm certainly not condoning it and I wish they'd just concentrate on getting behind the team.

But there is a very clear line that has been crossed when the chants become racial and whilst I didn't personally notice the song about the Bradford fire that is also very clearly beyond 'banter'. I don't think you can label the above as 'fans just being daft'.

I totally agree with you although like you, I didn't hear any racial chants or anything about the Bradford fire, so we will have to leave that for someone else to look at.

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Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:00 pm  

Funny that the first group complaining never mentioned Bradford Fire songs.
If true that is awful but I imagine it's exaggerated for effect.

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:27 pm  

I was stood in the north stand on Saturday with the bulls fans and have never heard chanting like it, bringing race into a rugby match is appalling and I was one of the bulls fans 'getting in the ear' of your much esteemed stewards who did nothing. I am very pleased to see the rfl and Wakefield are taking this seriously as I for one will not be returning to your stadium unless those responsible are dealt with.

Yes there was 'banter' flying back and forth and some bad language used, which does happen at all grounds and was equally evident from Bradford fans as it was Wakefield. However there is no excuse for racism, and that is what was heard by a small number of your fans, luckily we managed to catch this on film which has been sent to your club to assist in their investigation.

Hopefully this will be sorted quickly by your club meaning this won't be repeated as there really is no place for this in society, let alone at a rugby match.

Re: Club statement : Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:31 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Funny that the first group complaining never mentioned Bradford Fire songs.
If true that is awful but I imagine it's exaggerated for effect.

This was a group of no more than 5 fans - the other Wakefield fans around us vocally distanced themselves from this and agreed that they should be ejected.

Don't think anyone is suggesting this is a problem with wakey fans, more that a few individuals have attempted to ruin the match for others and need to be banned before giving a poor impression of the club and RL as a sport.