Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:46 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Nfl is no different to us.

Broncos spend $30 million dollars more than the Eagles. Both are in a Salary cap sport.

Fair point but both club's are still been run as a profitable business

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:33 pm  

Manuel wrote:

See you are still posting positive stuff Snowie. I read you were done.

suppose 50 plus years is hard to get it out of your system

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:43 pm  

vastman wrote:

But they are to blame all be it indirectly, that is the problem, I’m not sure what you don’t get.

I agree it’s not their fault, they have only been spending years doing just as they were asked. It’s the fault of SL that it hasn’t developed a good enough product to neither maintain or increase revenue to support the game.

Why people insist these days on making it all heroes and villains with no grey areas baffles me.

I totally see the virtues and benefits of two French teams.

However I don’t see how anyone can deny that the timing is utterly dreadful and financially risky at best. This is a stone cold fact!!!

Had Fev come up we’d have got a profitable game FACT, and that would partially have compensated the 400k loss of SKY money. Toulouse on the other hand will add to that loss as that game will probably run at a loss.

If the above is wrong please explain to me what I’m missing?

your missing nothing, the comment you made living for the moment says it all, I just don't want the club to crash and burn for the sake of keeping up with other clubs in the end we have to reduce our squad to compensate for the cost of travelling over to france

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:47 pm  

alegend wrote:

How about stopping the glorified cheeting called Suger Daddy's .Do you think Catalan, and Toulouse would be were they are if they had not had a big backer All the top teams are cheeting and way in detThe so called Salary Cap is a joke . Wakefield and a few more small S L club will be having to budget for playing TWO French as they will lose cash,in these fixtures .Thats 4 games .The Sugar Daddy's of the so called cheering big clubs will just pay ..And yet fans still blame Chester .Do you think that W P as now got a bigger budget no..The only thing difference is W P is playing more attacking rugby ,maybe it could be the first step in getting the crowds back

no one said Willy has a bigger budget but he has motivated the players where chessie had lost them

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:56 pm  

snowie wrote:

your missing nothing, the comment you made living for the moment says it all, I just don't want the club to crash and burn for the sake of keeping up with other clubs in the end we have to reduce our squad to compensate for the cost of travelling over to france

I've travelled with the team on 3 or 4 occasions to France on BMI when the airline needed to fill the plane up, nowadays the clubs charter a plane for the day to save costs on hotels, maybe the club could look into filling the plane up with supporters to balance out the cost, and on top of that hire a couple of buses with an extra charge on top to ferry them from the airport to the ground and back at the same time they hire the team coach.

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:34 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

So Toulouse are to blame for our diminishing fan base before they’ve even kicked a ball in super league. All clubs need to get their own houses in order before panning the new kids on the block . How about keeping Chester on too long when we all knew the game was up for him but kept prolonging the inevitable. How about lots of super league clubs bringing overseas players that haven’t cut the mustard . Lots of reason why crowds are down but at this moment in time Toulouse isn’t one of them .

This 100%. Well said mate. Wire fan.

Re: So.... : Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:19 pm  

We all know US NFL has minuscule away fans. They have found ways to fill their stadia. We haven’t, after over 100 years. Why would you go again to a game if the first time you went you used an outside toilet block and the ladies toilets were a disgusting mess as usual or you were served crap from a shed. I love my club and the game but to view it and analyse it , it is a shambles. We don’t seem to help ourselves. Some traveller sites are tidier than our car park. Just start with some basic change of image. There a young marketing Companies out there that would create promotional ideas. I am sure we could think of some ourselves.

Re: So.... : Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:00 am  

Hoping with the new found vim and vigour that poaching has got out of the players , that a decent cup run for once will bring some extra revenue into the club next season, long overdue IMO . Last time was against the wires at Leigh sports village , when sandow tore us a new one. Great day and occasion until 10-15 min into the game , scored first , then went sour pretty quick as I vaguely recall .

Re: So.... : Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:18 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Hoping with the new found vim and vigour that poaching has got out of the players , that a decent cup run for once will bring some extra coffers into the club next season, long overdue IMO . Last time was against the wires at Leigh sports village , when sandow tore us a new one. Great day and occasion until 10-15 min into the game , scored first , then went sour pretty quick as I vaguely recall .

To be fair we were limpng to the finish line that season. We only had two props and Kirmond, as ever, was busted but still put his hand up to play. He lasted about 5 minutes.

The only time we do well in the cup is when we get a lucky draw. As soon as we meet SL opposition it usually results in an exit. Still, waiting for on pitch success to improve crowds is a futile tactic, we need the bigger support now to facilitate the better quality players, it's not going to happen the other way round sadly, that's why we need to do something proactive rather than hope the same old turn up and Leeds (for example) bring a large following.

We have a shortfall? What is in our control that we can do to cover that? We've got to make sure we are the best we can be irrespective of others and that mean filling BV with Trinity fans first and foremost, away fans should be treated as a bonus.

At the start of the year I started a thread with regards to the visibility of the club to the local market. I think it triggered Vasty's good work with the leaflets and to be fair the first three games back seemed to benefit from them. It kind of tailed off until Poching turned us around.

There is always more we can do, and the best tools are the players. Give them more visibility in the city and surrounding areas. Make it so all of Wakefield knows who Tom Johnstone is. Immerse the club in the local psyche, otherwise we will always bumble along at the bottom of the table with the odd good period with a CC semi-final appearance thrown in for good measure.

2023 is the clubs 150th anniversary. I wonder if we have any major plans to promote it.

Re: So.... : Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:26 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Kettykat wrote:

Hoping with the new found vim and vigour that poaching has got out of the players , that a decent cup run for once will bring some extra coffers into the club next season, long overdue IMO . Last time was against the wires at Leigh sports village , when sandow tore us a new one. Great day and occasion until 10-15 min into the game , scored first , then went sour pretty quick as I vaguely recall .

To be fair we were limpng to the finish line that season. We only had two props and Kirmond, as ever, was busted but still put his hand up to play. He lasted about 5 minutes.

The only time we do well in the cup is when we get a lucky draw. As soon as we meet SL opposition it usually results in an exit. Still, waiting for on pitch success to improve crowds is a futile tactic, we need the bigger support now to facilitate the better quality players, it's not going to happen the other way round sadly, that's why we need to do something proactive rather than hope the same old turn up and Leeds (for example) bring a large following.

We have a shortfall? What is in our control that we can do to cover that? We've got to make sure we are the best we can be irrespective of others and that mean filling BV with Trinity fans first and foremost, away fans should be treated as a bonus.

At the start of the year I started a thread with regards to the visibility of the club to the local market. I think it triggered Vasty's good work with the leaflets and to be fair the first three games back seemed to benefit from them. It kind of tailed off until Poching turned us around.

There is always more we can do, and the best tools are the players. Give them more visibility in the city and surrounding areas. Make it so all of Wakefield knows who Tom Johnstone is. Immerse the club in the local psyche, otherwise we will always bumble along at the bottom of the table with the odd good period with a CC semi-final appearance thrown in for good measure.

2023 is the clubs 150th anniversary. I wonder if we have any major plans to promote it.

More visibility in the city.

A bit left sided, but how about this.

Wasn't one of the challenges with the leaflets, finding enough bodies with enough time on their hands to deliver them.

A squad of 28ish players, plus academy.

How about the players to put one day aside, to assist. They will mingle with the community and walking is probably the best free cardio exercise you could have.