Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:56 am  

After watching Leeds thrash Wigan a couple of days ago, there is hope (albeit extremely faint).
If Saints turn up wanting to play, they will put 50+ points on us and it could get very, very messy.

The first thing we have to do is complete our sets and get to a half decent kick, something we couldn't manage last week.

We have the worst defence and worst attack in the comp but, we only need a couple of wins so, we have to keep trying.

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Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:44 am  

There are 8 games left.
I'm supporting to the last second until we can no longer mathematically survive.
And then if the worst happens, I'll support them in the lower division in a shiny new stadium.

Of course it looks really really bad, but it's not over yet.
I'm not rallying the troops. Most have made it clear how they feel and will not change their mind, just saying where I am.
If I don't want the players to give up, then I shouldn't either.

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:04 am  

Luppylad wrote:

Where gonna be missing 1 regular.

And yet, at the beginning of the season, our first choice three quarters of Johnson, Tupou, Lyne and Lineham are not playing (for various reasons),

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:17 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And yet, at the beginning of the season, our first choice three quarters of Johnson, Tupou, Lyne and Lineham are not playing (for various reasons),

Out of that lot the one that we are really missing is Lyne. Defensively the right edge has collapsed without him. He wasn't playing great in attack but what it does show is what a great defender he is. For me he along with Kay is the biggest reason we are in this mess.

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Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:17 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And yet, at the beginning of the season, our first choice three quarters of Johnson, Tupou, Lyne and Lineham are not playing (for various reasons),

And Jowitt.

None of the back line were first choice at the start of tge season.
Murphy, Hall and Croft 40 career super league appearances between them.
And we have two players making debut and second game for us, both having had major injuries before coming here.

And they are playing against the current champions.

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:44 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

After watching Leeds thrash Wigan a couple of days ago, there is hope (albeit extremely faint).
If Saints turn up wanting to play, they will put 50+ points on us and it could get very, very messy.

The first thing we have to do is complete our sets and get to a half decent kick, something we couldn't manage last week.

We have the worst defence and worst attack in the comp but, we only need a couple of wins so, we have to keep trying.

I have no doubt that Wolff will have used Wigan's performance to highlight to his troops exactly what can go wrong if you don't turn up on the day...Obviously I hope they play like Wigan did, but realistically I can't see it happening

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:14 pm  

vastman wrote:

Out of that lot the one that we are really missing is Lyne. Defensively the right edge has collapsed without him. He wasn't playing great in attack but what it does show is what a great defender he is. For me he along with Kay is the biggest reason we are in this mess.

That is spot on .I will giveLyne the benefit of the dowt in attack .The only game I have seen Lyin in space, was at Wires and he finished that off well .Kay is a big miss, was looking good were ever he played

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:37 pm  

Well if we don't win on Sunday, for a second prize I'd just like to see that clever cockney git McCarthy Scarbrook with his nose plastered across his face as maybe we won't get another chance, won't ease his pain but it will mine

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:02 pm  

We are really missing TJ this year. Lyne has been poor this year overall and I think in defence he’s not been great either imo. We have always leaked a lot of try’s on the right. There was a notable improvement in defence when he was injured and Batch moved to right centre for two games. I was hoping Lyne would pick up some form for the World Cup but the injury is cruel.

Whichever way you look at it we have yet again been struggling for injuries. Last year was the forwards but this year the backs.

Re: Saints up next : Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And yet, at the beginning of the season, our first choice three quarters of Johnson, Tupou, Lyne and Lineham are not playing (for various reasons),

Johnson.......yes any team would miss him, but lets be honest we have had long spells without him before and managed.

Tupou...... dont think so that much, up to latest injury I thought his form was tailing off. Think his best was a few years back. Plus when Hall showed up many were saying he woild have to go well to get his place back. So he has been covered in my opinion.

Kaye....yes for sure, he had some great games on wing before injury.

Lyne.... as others have said, he is the big miss and we have never been able to cover his absence.

Then chuck Murphy into the mix as cover for One of the wings, so on examination although we are weaker but not as bad as it initially appears.

Oh forgot to mention Lineham, his absence is a massive benefit