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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:56 pm  

You really are good at steering a discussion Miro.
I don't agree with your covid opinions but I'd happily sit in a pub and discuss the world with you if that day ever comes back.
I'll probably need a beer and a white board to keep going.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:20 pm  

PopTart wrote:

You really are good at steering a discussion Miro.
I don't agree with your covid opinions but I'd happily sit in a pub and discuss the world with you if that day ever comes back.
I'll probably need a beer and a white board to keep going.

If I’m in the pub at the same time as you and Miro I hope the social distancing as increased

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:04 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

If I’m in the pub at the same time as you and Miro I hope the social distancing as increased

LOL. Harsh but fair.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:37 am  

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I have no figures to back up. The NHS and national statistics office publicised their numbers.
You put this lady up as a challenge to them.
I said I don't see her as more knowledgeable than the original source.

There isn't really a discussion here unless you can give more evidence or at least opinion.

Thought not.

So lets get this straight. Robert Jenrick MP states that hospital IC units are filling up in the West Country. This he states in the interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer on Talk Radio. She guts him by disagreeing and humiliating him by throwing his own government / NHS statistics in his Tory mush statistics which he evidently had no knowledge of .

You defend him by saying she has the wrong guy I give you evidence that he isn't the wrong guy and then I produce a health worker from the very same West Country who kinda backs up Ms Brewer from her first hand knowledge of hospitals in Cornwall, as west as west can be.

You defend Jenrick, dismiss Ms Tasker obviously disagree with Brewer yet you produce nothing, nada, zippo, to back up your posts.

You do not know the figures yet you quote their existence to back up your failed argument, just like your pal the Tory MP Jenrick.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:38 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

If I’m in the pub at the same time as you and Miro I hope the social distancing as increased

The Conservative club, obviously.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:47 am  

Miro wrote:

The Conservative club, obviously.

Obviously.
The beer is good.
And well priced.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:57 am  

In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it, I never thought about it anyway, and the implication was a criticism of any suggestion we should not have the lockdown.
Now that’s actually a very logical argument don't you think? And it cuts right to the heart of why the lockdown and the rest is so dangerous a precedent to set – for any nation,. One of the key questions is: how do you get out of a lockdown, distancing, masks etc. once it’s been started?

How are your people going to get us out of this? I have yet to see any plan? Certainly not a vaccine, reported to be only 50% effective re influenza and less so in the oldies. I cannot see Bill's vaccine being any different plus it will take years to find out just how effective it is.

Methinks there isn't one. That is, a plan to get us out of this..

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:53 am  

In nearly every post you make you do a little leap and then base your conclusions on that. And then don't understand people don't agree.


This bit makes two points that are not as clean cut as you imply...

"In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it"

Spread of flu can't be connected to Belle Vue. For a start off most are outside which is the least likely place.
So to then say that nobody cares as a link to lockdown is not the same.

If there was suddenly a few people with food poisoning after a game, our food huts would be investigated and possibly shut down.
If there was a link to a serious virus we'd also be investigated.
Flu isn't one of those.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:26 am  

PopTart wrote:

In nearly every post you make you do a little leap and then base your conclusions on that. And then don't understand people don't agree.


This bit makes two points that are not as clean cut as you imply...

"In my first post I mentioned influenza, how we spread the flu year after year, a lot of that by visiting Belle Vue in our thousands, especially in winter and without any concern for those who will die from it"

Spread of flu can't be connected to Belle Vue. For a start off most are outside which is the least likely place.
So to then say that nobody cares as a link to lockdown is not the same.

If there was suddenly a few people with food poisoning after a game, our food huts would be investigated and possibly shut down.
If there was a link to a serious virus we'd also be investigated.
Flu isn't one of those.

Are you seriously suggesting the flu is spread differently to “covid”. Or, as you imply, not spread by human contact in large crowds be it outdoors, in the stands, bars or in the shop. Not to mention shared cars and buses and last but not least, a large influx of visitors numbering a couple of thousand?

I was of the understanding that both were transmitted in the same way. Or does covid have it's own unique way of jumping from one person to the next? And, if not, why the social distancing everywhere including outdoors.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:01 pm  

Miro wrote:

Are you seriously saying the flu is spread differently to “covid”. Or, as you imply, not spread by human contact in large crowds be it outdoors, in the stands, bars or in the shop At all? Not to mention shared cars and buses and last but not least, a large influx of visitors numbering a couple of thousand?

I was of the understanding that both were transmitted in the same way. Or does covid have it's own unique way of jumping from one person to the next? And, if not, why the social distancing everywhere including outside.

And are you suggesting that the population have not built up a whole load of immunity against seasonal flu, meaning that most of us are largely immune.
Yes, it spreads in just the same way but, they are not the same virus.

Anyway, are you still suggesting that the covid 19 virus is fake and that it's still part of a world re set or, is there another master plan in action to control the world's population.