Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:43 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

'This must not be deviated from to any degree where it makes the growth of the club not viable"

If ego has dictated one move, let's not have ego dictate another. Take a cold and clinical assessment of what's tabled and move from there. The morality or frustration of what's involved shouldn't matter. It's about adding up the numbers, nothing more. The club will move on, ownerships will change.

You've got 2 guys running the club who could earn 75k each at any other club. 150k
We are probably understaffed to run a proper club by about 5 people @ 20k each. 100k
We will be at least 300k behind other clubs spending next year. 300k

Revenue needed 550k per annum.

This is why we require revenues to fill this gap.

If we are only able to achieve 100k extra revenues through the new stadium deal, are you saying that we should take that regardless?

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:21 pm  

Daddycool wrote:

You've got 2 guys running the club who could earn 75k each at any other club. 150k
We are probably understaffed to run a proper club by about 5 people @ 20k each. 100k
We will be at least 300k behind other clubs spending next year. 300k

Revenue needed 550k per annum.

This is why we require revenues to fill this gap.

If we are only able to achieve 100k extra revenues through the new stadium deal, are you saying that we should take that regardless?

Not in the slightest. As I've said, if the figures from any "new deal" don't allow the club to grow, there's no point. It merely postpones the inevitable. What I'm driving at generally is, using your figures, that if the original proposals would have generated 750K per annum but a new deal only brings in 650K, I hope that the frustration at 100K being diverted away from where it should be going doesn't scupper a deal that would still be broadly beneficial.

Like I said earlier, there is only question: does it benefit the club? If it doesn't fill the gap because the way the deal changes, there is no point.

From a personal point of view, I'd love to stay at Belle Vue, but the only thing I want is to see Wakefield Trinity be successful. It's a club I've followed since I was five and I'm in my fifties now. I could sense the frustration in the club's statement and I believe every word.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:53 pm  

Daddycool wrote:

You've got 2 guys running the club who could earn 75k each at any other club. 150k
We are probably understaffed to run a proper club by about 5 people @ 20k each. 100k
We will be at least 300k behind other clubs spending next year. 300k

Revenue needed 550k per annum.

This is why we require revenues to fill this gap.

If we are only able to achieve 100k extra revenues through the new stadium deal, are you saying that we should take that regardless?

What sort of stuff do you include in the extra revenues? Would it be just things like extra hospitality, catering etc. or does it include an assumption of some kind of crowd increase? If it came down to a situation where you could either increase revenues by about 400k, take it or leave it, would you be willing to take that even though it's far from ideal?

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Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:08 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

But if the stadium is priced so that the Club cannot sustain itself and compete with the other SL clubs then what's the point building it. If there is no Wakefield Trinity there is no need for a stadium.

We have a Trust set up by the Council to facilitate the stadium ask yourself why he cannot work with that Trust and has to set up his own Trust that will exclude the owners of the Club but he wants the Club to be anchor tenant. Doesn't add up does it.

That's crux of it for me.
If the Directors of the club are excluded there is something wrong and it needs looking at.
If they are simply changing their role but equally involved and included then ok that might work.
It's not like anyone wants to be friends with SRW or York court. They just have to work professionally and get the stadium sorted.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:26 pm  

What's the council leader doing to help the deal get sorted. Is he just letting Rodders and Mackie just waffle along and finally delay and delay so it never gets built. Which is just what Mackie wants.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:30 pm  

poplar cats alive wrote:

What's the council leader doing to help the deal get sorted. Is he just letting Rodders and Mackie just waffle along and finally delay and delay so it never gets built. Which is just what Mackie wants.

Not really sure he can do anything. It said in the statement released that the Council preferred the existing trust to be the one involved but if the developer doesn't want to work with them then what can they do?

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:47 pm  

jakeyg95 wrote:

Not really sure he can do anything. It said in the statement released that the Council preferred the existing trust to be the one involved but if the developer doesn't want to work with them then what can they do?

wash their dirty linen in public, but they're not going to want everyone to see what an utter shambolic collection of dingbats they actually are

they're going to have to be forced

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:19 pm  

If the council had have framed itself years back we wouldn't be in this sorry mess . No wonder he's taking legal advice to see if his backside is covered. Dependant on his advice he may get further involved to save his sorry Rse.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:23 pm  

The comments from SRW leave a bad taste.
It seems bizarre that, regardless of any "personality issues" that there may be between members of the previous trust, WMDC, SRW and Yorkcourt, if the desire was there to make the stadium happen, they ought to be able to make it happen.
Of course, it's great when all parties within a negotiation get along and collectively make things happen but, the recent developments just seem like yet another excuse.
The deal has to be right for those involved and with all respect to the "new" trust, how can they possibly agree something, when it is critical that it suits MC and CB, after all, it's their club.
If their is a stadium deal "on the table" then, it just seems like hollow excuses that this cant be sorted with the original Trust members and after such a long time since PP was granted, they ought to be getting on with it, unless of course, there is no intention from Yorkcourt to deliver what they promised.
Meanwhile, Newcold is expanding and there doesn't seem to be any delays with that part of the project.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:13 pm  

I've posted elsewhere, the deal that Salford originally agreed for their new stadium nearly broke them!

Keep up the good work Daddycool.