Re: New York : Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:12 pm  

musson wrote:

I'm completely in favour of one US and one Canadian club in SL under the principal of developing there own players and national team
If it can do for those countries what it's done for the kiwis with the Vodafone warriors then it's a great thing, same applies with Catalan and France

When they get to the stage where they can produce enough players then great, introduce a second team

That's something that will happen in the NRL too
Another kiwi team has being on the cards fir some one and I'd say we will see it in this decade

Fiji Samoa and tonga will all get a team in NSW/Queensland cup soon enough too like PNG, all v positive steps for RL

Our game abroad is clearly getting stronger

Someone should have told them in wales! How many miles away is that? There super league life did'nt last long but a bit longer than paris!

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:46 am  

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... -1-toronto Interesting read!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... -1-toronto Interesting read!

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:19 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

To market a sport that nobody knows about and get 7000 fans to watch games against third tier opposition, is some effort.

Any National league, most Championship and over half of the current SL clubs would be over the moon with those numbers (and with little or no away support).
The RFL are missing a trick by not getting Perez and some of his team involved in marketing the game.

I agree that the real test will come when they start losing games but, they may be up to 10k by then, which would be a fantastic achievement.

hang on didn't we get figures like that to find that we was supported by free loaders

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:25 am  

snowie wrote:

hang on didn't we get figures like that to find that we was supported by free loaders

It's not just the 7000 fans, it's 7000 new RL fans that have watched Toronto at home, against low ranked opposition and with no away fans ! and form a cold (sub zero) start up.
It's reasonable to expect that playing games against "better" opposition and with increased marketing etc, they should grow their support base still further and whilst there are some issues with location and the practicalities of having a North American club in The Championship, for a guy like Perez to get this thing off the ground and have some vision to try and establish RL in new territory, is a superb effort.
Unlike some of the failed "expansion" efforts in the past, this one has some serious backing behind it and they are working to a long term plan, investing in some local based players and trying to convert some new players from "football".
Although there are implications for the game in the heartlands, it's up to THe RFL to manage the situation properly and maximise the benefits for the game as a whole.
Whether they can do this remains to be seen but, IF and its a huge if, RL can establish itself in new territory, we should all hope that it succeeds.
The potential is massive but, getting the thing right and working out how this best fits with RL in Oz, NZ, the UK and France and not damaging what we already have, will be a tricky balancing act.

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:31 am  

Splashing out on old NRL has beens and the thugs of RL is not a long term plan.

[Bullseye]

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:58 am  

Willzay wrote:

Splashing out on old NRL has beens and the thugs of RL is not a long term plan.

Might not just be those type of players if the new clubs over there keep springing up.

Until they can produce and develop their own players aren't they just a parasite on the game over here? You could end up in a few years time with Toronto and NY both in SL full of Brits, Aussies and Kiwis. For all the 7k attendances where are the new players coming from? What good does it do the game in this country if it's just producing players for foreign clubs?

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:08 am  

Don't understand what the end ambition is here.

Do the RFL think that having a super league with 2 American teams in is the way forward? Makes sense if it is temporary with a view to setting up a north American league. But to have two teams on a different continent just doesn't seem to make sense long term.

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:27 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It's not just the 7000 fans, it's 7000 new RL fans that have watched Toronto at home, against low ranked opposition and with no away fans ! and form a cold (sub zero) start up.
It's reasonable to expect that playing games against "better" opposition and with increased marketing etc, they should grow their support base still further and whilst there are some issues with location and the practicalities of having a North American club in The Championship, for a guy like Perez to get this thing off the ground and have some vision to try and establish RL in new territory, is a superb effort.
Unlike some of the failed "expansion" efforts in the past, this one has some serious backing behind it and they are working to a long term plan, investing in some local based players and trying to convert some new players from "football".
Although there are implications for the game in the heartlands, it's up to THe RFL to manage the situation properly and maximise the benefits for the game as a whole.
Whether they can do this remains to be seen but, IF and its a huge if, RL can establish itself in new territory, we should all hope that it succeeds.
The potential is massive but, getting the thing right and working out how this best fits with RL in Oz, NZ, the UK and France and not damaging what we already have, will be a tricky balancing act.

the question is are they just opening the doors, don't question the ability for expansion, lets put it this way corners shops don't get the same amount of footfall if the product cost more do they

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:05 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Splashing out on old NRL has beens and the thugs of RL is not a long term plan.

Its worked for wakefield for how many years?

Regards

King James

Re: New York : Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:58 pm  

Lebron James wrote:

Its worked for wakefield for how many years?

Regards

King James

Do Toronto even have an academy?