Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:31 am  

Lockers700 wrote:

Sundays attendance is going to be interesting reading. The crowds at Cas plummeted under Millward because the fans refused to watch his team and we’re heading that way.

Haven't most crowds 'plummeted' this season?

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:20 am  

vastman wrote:

You have to admit Mopsey pushes it somewhat more than the others, he lets emotions run away with him by being incredibly strident and indiscreet at times. That's fine if no one knows who you are but his identity was never a secret. I admire him for posting openly as himself and much of what he says rings true but that doesn't excuse some of his outbursts that are equally hurtful to other good family men.

Maybe if you were to advise him to read his text before sending them and imagine how it might read to others.

I, of course, should do the same but at the end of the day, I'm a nobody, people like BLM, FT, and Mopsey are not. They are directly linked to the club and the playing staff and I have no doubt whatsoever that the club reads what's on here and knows who's posting. Mopsey in particular may be as honest as the day is long but honesty has to be tempered with diplomacy, especially when you are by connections a somebody.

Put it this way, CC and MC would need to be saints not to have been offended by some of the postings by what I'd call club-related people and they would have to be even more super human to not let it cloud their opinions. When things are good these forums are great, when they are bad they can be hugely counterproductive, especially where players and their supporters become involved, it's a fine line.

you have your opinion and I respect that but rightly or wrongly this is my club, I don’t talk to the lad about rugby, I don’t see a great deal of him to be honest with work and training and other stuff so it’s the last thing on our minds. Let’s just say from my point of view we’re not a happy club at the moment as no one bar the top brass no what the hell is going on. I went Sunday and from a position of 18 nil up and in control we just disintegrated, you could see the confidence drain from us. Yes we dropped balls and made mistakes but we couldn’t regain a footing in the match with let’s say a simple 5 drives and a kick: it’s hard in a team game to say Miller was poor when you see him put his body on the line and belt people hard or senior was when he made a couple of mistakes but put his hand up in front of the posts to drive it in at 2 stone wet through knowing he’s going to get flattened. The whole team looks to be lacking confidence, why I’ve no idea they are capable of good things. Lastly carter is all over these boards, people have been sent on here to personally attack people and break up discontent. Posters appearing out of know where and after ten years away and changing their names all the time. Instead of digging in at people and personally I don’t give a toss as long as stuff is true things may improve if they listened

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:56 am  

vastman wrote:

That's a ridiculous statement.

Lanky kid to England international and you don't think he's improved, or Lyne, or Tupou, or Fifita and the list goes on.

I don't understand why people feel the need to underline the legitimate reasons for letting Chester go by underlining it with untruth.

Try asking TJ if he thinks he's improved under CC, I bet he'd tell you he has and owes him a lot.

Since returning from injury TJ has not had as many chances as he should have but that's a team and tactics issue, TJ himself has if anything got better as he's had to adapt,

What has partially held his game back is not CC but injuries, it's that simple.

I don't mind people having a pop at CC for the mistakes he has made, which IMO are now irredeemable but you can't bag him for what he has had little control over.

In your opinion maybe so. However there is no way I'm having the sentiment from PT that somehow Johnstone is a success story of Chester's. Of course he's improved he would have improved wherever he was simply due to coming of age he's that good. However Chester's use of him as a battering ram and his inability to even get the ball to him on the wing more than a couple of times a game in the last couple of years is absolutely scandalous when you have someone that good. He should be our absolute focal point in every game, instead we barely see him unless he's making something out of nothing. So yes, to trumpet Johnstone as being a success story under Chester I'm not having

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:17 am  

vastman wrote:

I, of course, should do the same but at the end of the day, I'm a nobody, people like BLM, FT, and Mopsey are not. They are directly linked to the club and the playing staff and I have no doubt whatsoever that the club reads what's on here and knows who's posting. Mopsey in particular may be as honest as the day is long but honesty has to be tempered with diplomacy, especially when you are by connections a somebody.

I actually admire their honesty, don’t think anyone who posts on here isn’t a genuine fan, if cc and the board take offence then do something about it.

Sadly for some reason they seem to be tinkering around the edges , personally if I was Chris Chester and had an ounce of pride I would have resigned 2-3 months ago.

[PopTart]

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:25 am  

Schunter wrote:

In your opinion maybe so. However there is no way I'm having the sentiment from PT that somehow Johnstone is a success story of Chester's. Of course he's improved he would have improved wherever he was simply due to coming of age he's that good. However Chester's use of him as a battering ram and his inability to even get the ball to him on the wing more than a couple of times a game in the last couple of years is absolutely scandalous when you have someone that good. He should be our absolute focal point in every game, instead we barely see him unless he's making something out of nothing. So yes, to trumpet Johnstone as being a success story under Chester I'm not having

So when players improve its their own work but when players don't improve its Chester's fault?
TJ has said in interviews that he's improved under both Smith and Chester.

He had some real flaws in his game when he started in taking high balls and defense.
He's plugged a lot of those gaps.

Returning the ball is a standard part of a wingers job now. Show me another team who doesn't do it.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:25 am  

Kirmudgeonlyisback wrote:

I actually admire their honesty, don’t think anyone who posts on here isn’t a genuine fan, if cc and the board take offence then do something about it.

Sadly for some reason they seem to be tinkering around the edges , personally if I was Chris Chester and had an ounce of pride I would have resigned 2-3 months ago.

I don't think it's fair to expect him to walk away from however many thousands a year. I wouldn't unless my health was suffering and I suggest most people wouldn't in the same position.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:26 am  

PopTart wrote:

So when players improve its their own work but when players don't improve its Chester's fault?
TJ has said in interviews that he's improved under both Smith and Chester.

He had some real flaws in his game when he started in taking high balls and defense.
He's plugged a lot of those gaps.

Returning the ball is a standard part of a wingers job now. Show me another team who doesn't do it.

Selective points there PT. If you feel that Chester is in anyway getting the best out of Johnstone that's your opinion. I just don't share it

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:29 am  

All we seem to read on here is Chester this and Chester that or Carter this and Carter that. The point is 18 points up in first quarter and then to lose the only guys that lost that game were the ones on the park. The second half was abysmal and that was down to the players like it or not.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:05 pm  

The way I’m feeling about trinity,Chester and mc they might as well dig bv up and put spuds in it . Absolute rubbish

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:20 pm  

phe13 wrote:

Haven't most crowds 'plummeted' this season?

Well, for all the money spent and team on a winning run, Huddersfield fans are hardly turning up in droves to watch them 3,760, I think was the announcement, and 500 of those were from Trinity. . Yes, at every club the crowds are down, people have now got out of the habit of match day. Our crowds will be well down on average this year, it’s alright people on here complaining about lack of quality players, when those very people are withdrawing their support and ticket funding. Get behind the club, Remember, Use it or Lose it.