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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:11 pm  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
Well I don’t know the professionals they are talking to but it’s not working too well. Why should they want to talk to me, they don’t want to talk to any supporters even those like you.


You don't know that at all.
All you know is they are not coming to you. Which amazing as it sounds I'm OK with.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:33 pm  
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You don't know that at all.
All you know is they are not coming to you. Which amazing as it sounds I'm OK with.


The performances say they are not talking to the correct professionals but I doubt they are actually seeking help and I am fine with them not coming to me because if we are relegated it is their relegation no one else.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:43 pm  
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The performances say they are not talking to the correct professionals but I doubt they are actually seeking help and I am fine with them not coming to me because if we are relegated it is their relegation no one else.


So what's your problem? A couple of posts ago you were moaning because they didn't take advice from this forum?
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:18 pm  
To say Poching can’t coach is i feel wrong. Maybe though there’s an argument that it’s a head coach role that isn’t for him. I think he knows his stuff but he’s probably just too nice and maybe lacks the ability to be ruthless and make the tough decisions on the run that good head coaches and managers need to do. He does seem a little confused with some of his selections as well right now, there’s a worry that there is a lack of clarity in his decision making going on. But many good judges have given him coaching jobs, he must be doing something right somewhere.

I do think Willie probably gets a little more credit in the bank than some might due to a few factors. Firstly he took over an under-performing but also unbalanced squad from the last coach who had already blown a large amount of this years budget on garbage like Gaskell & Lineham. He also is well thought of by all due to his time as a player with the club, something that always helps. He has just signed a couple of his own players that we have yet to see in action. If we are backing him with signings then i imagine he is going to get chance to show what he can do with them in the side. His signings hit rate has been ok, a couple of hits and a couple of misses, that happens. And actually given everything he currently has a respectable career win rate of about 41% i think. 11 wins in 27 games i believe, thats probably about 10th over a season which is about the whereabouts of the quality of this squad. Would anybody else who is available (please don’t say Tony Smith, not going to happen) do any better with this lot? It’s unlikely.

In my personal opinion he deserves a little longer to prove himself. His next 3 are a very winnable game against Hull KR, a free hit against Saints and a derby game versus Cas. That takes us until the end of the month and around the same amount of games remaining as when Chester got the push last year and when Kear came in in 2006. If there’s no signs of improvement by then maybe it will be time. But for now he retains my support.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:19 pm  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
Why should they want to talk to me, they don’t want to talk to any supporters even those like you.


That's not true, MC always makes time to talk to supporters. He doesn't hide away at matches.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:48 pm  
Johnstone, lynne, Tupou , That’s some serious fire power that as been unavailable for big parts of the season . Bring in Gaskell n lineham in the off season supposedly to bolster the squad and it doesn’t take a genius to realise why we are where we are . Hindsight is a wonderful think but I’d like to think that if fifita and butler had kept on the field yesterday, and Lino hadn’t failed a fitness test we wouldn’t be having all this vitriol spouted all over social media .
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:04 pm  
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Johnstone, lynne, Tupou , That’s some serious fire power that as been unavailable for big parts of the season . Bring in Gaskell n lineham in the off season supposedly to bolster the squad and it doesn’t take a genius to realise why we are where we are . Hindsight is a wonderful think but I’d like to think that if fifita and butler had kept on the field yesterday, and Lino hadn’t failed a fitness test we wouldn’t be having all this vitriol spouted all over social media .

100% spot on.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:24 pm  
Just watched les Cats bite the dust after fielding a seriously weakened squad against a team that couldn’t buy a win over the last few months. Look at Wigan who were in control of their game until compulsive grub Singleton tipped the scales in st favour , and they don’t turn those type of invites down . Judge poching when we eventually have a full squad on the park I say ,you’d struggle with an NRL coach to get more out of this lot at present ,we are simply down on quality, the quality we do have ,most of which I’ve already alluded to are sat out .
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:45 pm  
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We do have one who is at Leigh. We are paying him his 2022 wages….mind boggling isn’t it how we are paying Chester who is at Leigh.

In honesty though Chesters recruitment has been questionable at best for trinity. He signed the likes of Gaskell/Lineham on long deals.

It was correct to get rid of Chester and in fact we waited too long.


That's why, for me, the blame lies at MC's door. We let things drift and stagnate too long, then go for the cheap option. It doesn't always work.

I said it about 12 months ago, these are Chester's players, and until some of these have moved on, we won't be able to judge Poching properly.
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Re: Poching cant coach : Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:37 pm  
If WP wants a piece of advice don’t play Croft next week because he will be up against Kenny Dowell who will have a field day, looking at what he did today, even in defeat.
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