Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:48 am  

PopTart wrote:

You can't prove the absence of something.
You can only prove something is there or theorise it isn't through lack of evidence.

Indeed

His many arguments have holes appearing at a vast rate of knots and his increasing desperation to try and show that we are all being "controlled" and that the "global reset" is happening look weaker by the day.
Having someone on here that happily admits that he allows people into his "shop" while not adhering to government advice, which will help spread the virus is just ridiculous and selfish in equal measure.

Mind you, credit where it's due.
He's spent hour upon hour finding tenuous links to like minded people (not David Ike though ) and probably will continue in his quest and good luck to him.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:58 am  

coco the fullback wrote: Once again, they are not making any claims, you are. They are refuting the claims you make because you repeatedly fail to provide any credible evidence (or any evidence at all) for them. Quoting what someone posts on the internet is not evidence. You are free to believe anything you wish, but claims/assertions without evidence can simply be dismissed. It is not possible to prove your claims not to be true, other than to show that there is no credible evidence to back them up. Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Absolutely spot on post no evidence offered whatsoever

coco the fullback wrote: Once again, they are not making any claims, you are. They are refuting the claims you make because you repeatedly fail to provide any credible evidence (or any evidence at all) for them. Quoting what someone posts on the internet is not evidence. You are free to believe anything you wish, but claims/assertions without evidence can simply be dismissed. It is not possible to prove your claims not to be true, other than to show that there is no credible evidence to back them up. Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Absolutely spot on post no evidence offered whatsoever

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:29 pm  

Should have chosen the blue pill

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:48 am  

Allrightee. Just as I thought, not one, not one single post of mine have they brought up to dissect and prove that it is a load a balls. And that's after giving them almost 24 hours to collaborate and come up with something, anything. And to think their incentive was the chance to get rid of me, and they failed miserably at the very first hurdle. Instead just the usual name calling and cheap character assassinations and sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. (Yes I know, I'm guilty of that too now and again) And here they are, the terrible two with their backing band. Pop Tart Wrencat Red white and blue Billy Butcher Charlie ????? Coco Not even an acknowledgement that my research did not come from Icke. Not proof but certainly evidence. See here. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=630163&start=890 Instead this is the kind of childish garbage they retort with: Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Unfortunately I do not know the ages of the above posters so I shall be kind and leave it at that.

Allrightee. Just as I thought, not one, not one single post of mine have they brought up to dissect and prove that it is a load a balls. And that's after giving them almost 24 hours to collaborate and come up with something, anything. And to think their incentive was the chance to get rid of me, and they failed miserably at the very first hurdle. Instead just the usual name calling and cheap character assassinations and sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. (Yes I know, I'm guilty of that too now and again) And here they are, the terrible two with their backing band. Pop Tart Wrencat Red white and blue Billy Butcher Charlie ????? Coco Not even an acknowledgement that my research did not come from Icke. Not proof but certainly evidence. See here. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=630163&start=890 Instead this is the kind of childish garbage they retort with: Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Unfortunately I do not know the ages of the above posters so I shall be kind and leave it at that.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:26 am  

Should anyone wants to do a little research they can take the advice of a couple of posters on here, mentioned in previous post, and hop over to the likes of David Icke or they can do as I do and go to source material.

By the way, I personaly have no problem with Icke, as I know very little about him. But there you have it, more ammunition for the snipers.
They fail to realise that copying someone else's research is not, in the true sense of the word, research, though admittedly it is helpful at times to back up your own conclusions.

Here are two books I have found very helpful though admitedly it's years since I last read them.
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, clue is in the title.

The second by John Perkins is more first hand knowledge of how the powerful corporations and the system works and should partly answer the question so often posed “How is it that most countries etc.etc. And when you realise this was before the internet and globalism really took a hold it is even more of an eye opener.
Below are the books and a short review (not mine) of them both.

Some posters, you know who they are, will come on here and say ”What the hell has this got to do with covid” Followed by the usual '*^$%£?@^£”
Well, I believe they have a great insight into the situation we find ourselves in today with corporations and governments handling of the covid flu and peoples reactions.

The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists,
Robert Tressell.
The novel is set in the fictional town of Mugsborough,

for example – for the parlous situation in which they, fellow workers, find themselves. Their ignorance is exacerbated by their preferred reading matter, principally the gutter press. In contrast, Owen, is regarded as a crank and an agitator:
“It was because he was in the habit of speaking on these subjects that his fellow workmen came to the conclusion that there was probably something wrong with his mind.”

I'm happy to say the The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists was a great incentive for the labour movement and no longer is the author, a painter and decorator by trade at the turn of the century, regarded as a “crank”

George Orwell first read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists in the 1930s when he himself was dirt poor and struggling to make his way as a writer. Its influence on his work is patent, in particular on Down and Out in Paris and London. Like Tressell, Orwell went out of his way to assure his readers that everything he wrote was more or less true and that nothing had been invented. Tressell’s novel, he felt, was “wonderful”, albeit not beautifully written. “It recorded things that were everyday experience but which simply had not been noticed before – just as, so it is said, no one before AD 1800 ever noticed that the sea was blue.

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: The shocking story of how America really took over the world
As an Economic Hit Man (EHM), John Perkins helped further American imperial interests in countries such as Ecuador, Panama, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. As Chief Economist for the international consulting firm Chas. T. Main, he convinced underdeveloped countries to accept massive loans for infrastructure development and ensured that the projects were contracted to multinational corporations. The countries acquired enormous debt, and the US and international aid agencies were able to control their economies.

He tried to write this book four times but was threatened or bribed each time to halt. The events of 9/11 - a direct result of the activities of EHMs in the 1970s - finally forced him to confront the role he played himself, and to reveal the truth to the rest of the world.
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man has become a word-of-mouth bestseller in the US. It has been called the book that finally 'connects the dots, the book that best explains what is really going on in the world'.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:12 am  

You're claiming all of that as your own work again are you?

I don't necessarily disagree with some of your prose, but you need to reference and then back it up.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:49 am  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

You're claiming all of that as your own work again are you?

I don't necessarily disagree with some of your prose, but you need to reference and then back it up.

Behave will yer, his posts are long enough as it is

[PopTart]

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:09 am  

So, two books, out of millions of similar. One is a fictional representation of socialism, the other an example of a company following their own capitalist views.
Great book reviews. But what's the point?
All it seems to indicate to me is that you are living in the past and you are simply resistent to modern day change.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:49 am  

Miro wrote: Allrightee. Just as I thought, not one, not one single post of mine have they brought up to dissect and prove that it is a load a balls. And that's after giving them almost 24 hours to collaborate and come up with something, anything. And to think their incentive was the chance to get rid of me, and they failed miserably at the very first hurdle. Instead just the usual name calling and cheap character assassinations and sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. (Yes I know, I'm guilty of that too now and again) And here they are, the terrible two with their backing band. Pop Tart Wrencat Red white and blue Billy Butcher Charlie ????? Coco Not even an acknowledgement that my research did not come from Icke. Not proof but certainly evidence. See here. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=630163&start=890 Instead this is the kind of childish garbage they retort with: Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Unfortunately I do not know the ages of the above posters so I shall be kind and leave it at that. NOBODY has said that your "research" has come from Ike. However, despite having very, very similar views (some of them word for word ) you have said that you have NEVER read any of his output. Therefore, creating one of the most incredible coincidences ever seen or perhaps you dont want to be associated with someone who, like you, is associated with quite unusual beliefs. Do you have a turquoise tracksuit ? As for you many theories One by one, they just aren't happening and/or have been debunked Are all of the new figures on hospital admissions and increased cases of covid all fake and are you still encouraging your customers to enter your establishment not to wear face coverings. The irony here is that by your actions, in allowing people to enter your shop, without face coverings, YOU are "helping" both spread the virus and prolong the lockdowns that you despise. Too bloody selfish to follow the guidance but, spending plenty of time complaining the restrictions are in place. Also, you've asked for proof of things that people dont believe exist and you seem disappointed that it cant be provided How about the Loch Ness Monster ?

Miro wrote: Allrightee. Just as I thought, not one, not one single post of mine have they brought up to dissect and prove that it is a load a balls. And that's after giving them almost 24 hours to collaborate and come up with something, anything. And to think their incentive was the chance to get rid of me, and they failed miserably at the very first hurdle. Instead just the usual name calling and cheap character assassinations and sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. (Yes I know, I'm guilty of that too now and again) And here they are, the terrible two with their backing band. Pop Tart Wrencat Red white and blue Billy Butcher Charlie ????? Coco Not even an acknowledgement that my research did not come from Icke. Not proof but certainly evidence. See here. viewtopic.php?f=33&t=630163&start=890 Instead this is the kind of childish garbage they retort with: Oh, by the way, did you know that Donald Trump is a reptilian shape-shifter Here's the 'evidence' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI or maybe he's a space alien? more 'evidence' https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ufo-aler ... _b_9471748 Unfortunately I do not know the ages of the above posters so I shall be kind and leave it at that. NOBODY has said that your "research" has come from Ike. However, despite having very, very similar views (some of them word for word ) you have said that you have NEVER read any of his output. Therefore, creating one of the most incredible coincidences ever seen or perhaps you dont want to be associated with someone who, like you, is associated with quite unusual beliefs. Do you have a turquoise tracksuit ? As for you many theories One by one, they just aren't happening and/or have been debunked Are all of the new figures on hospital admissions and increased cases of covid all fake and are you still encouraging your customers to enter your establishment not to wear face coverings. The irony here is that by your actions, in allowing people to enter your shop, without face coverings, YOU are "helping" both spread the virus and prolong the lockdowns that you despise. Too bloody selfish to follow the guidance but, spending plenty of time complaining the restrictions are in place. Also, you've asked for proof of things that people dont believe exist and you seem disappointed that it cant be provided How about the Loch Ness Monster ?

[PopTart]

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:16 am  

One of the best proofs of absence from my point of view is that, in modern times, if you can actually prove a conspiracy theory or be the guy to out something clandestine, you'll be minted for life.

In the same way that no one from the original Nasa team that put a man on the moon has come forward. For relatively low paid workers that would set them up forever, but no one ever has.

Exactly the same now. I'm sure there will be things about individual cover ups of trips to Barnard Castle that will come out in the wash, but only on small individual cases.
No one has any evidence of a New World Order, apart from imaginative fiction. I'm sure it'll be a good book one day.

Of course there was a time when people were seen as crazy for suggesting the world was round. If a rugby forum like this existed in those days I'm sure Miroclese would be telling us the truth....... But the difference is, in that case, evidence was there to change peoples mind.
If you can put anything close to a minute amount of tangible evidence you can consider me a convert.... But up to now I haven't seen it.