Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:18 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'll assume "plandemic" is your word to try and illustrate that all of this was "planned".
You evidenced this originally with your "conference" where they discussed what may happen in the event of a pandemic, something that has been discussed very regularly for the last 25 years but, because of the conference last year, you have put 2 + 2 together and decided that all that we see now is part of some kind of "masterplan", a "world reset".

What on earth happened at every other conference and why was last years get together "the one" ?

Apart from every economy in the world going backwards (by massively varying degrees), you believe that we are all going to succumb to a new world order, as yet unknown and as yet, still on the back of a fag packet somewhere.

Well, whoever is going to lead the new world had better be quick as many nations are beginning to get this thing under control and there chance may have already passed.

I do hope that the new political party that was going to sweep the nation isn't Mr Farage and his Brexit/Reform party ??

Keep searching bud, the answer is still out there.

Now you say:
You have put 2 + 2 together and decided that all that we see now is part of some kind of "masterplan", a "world reset".

Not my 2+2 but the intentions of the World Economic Forum. (global leaders from the United Nations, United Kingdom, United States, International Monetary Fund and multi-national corporations.) I don't believe these people use the back of a fag packet.

“Well, whoever is going to lead the new world had better be quick as many nations are beginning to get this thing under control and there chance may have already passed.”

I never claimed it would succeed, I don't believe it will. Yes, they may be too late. We agree.
But that is no consolation to the victims.
By the way, where is it “under control” and where all restrictions have ended. And why the need for a Vaccine that will be out of date by the time of "covid ver 2"? Or shall we call it covid Vista.

“I do hope that the new political party that was going to sweep the nation isn't Mr Farage and his Brexit / Reform party ??”

No idea what your talking about here. But you keep shooting the messenger and avoid discussion of the WEF. I don't believe they will thank you for the “fag packet” reference. At least I take them seriously enough to, at the very, least highlight them and ask questions.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:31 am  

PopTart wrote:

I think it's time to remind you that this is a rugby forum.
Off topic subjects like this tend to be either blocked or moved to the sin bin forum where you can chat to like minded people.
I kept it on here as the discussion was as relentless as the virus and its easier to moderate in one place.
If it's got to the point where you are berating posters for not replying to you then it may have run its course.
Leave people to post when they want and just clarify your point.

I don't think you'll find forums outside RLFans as tolerant.

I don't understand, why are you reminding me this is a rugby forum when the title of the thread is “What now for fans watching ? COVID chat” and so many times I have tried to re introduce rugby back into the thread, as I did just prior to your post. So why the need to remind me?
Here is the quote from my last post”

“That this plandemic is depriving us of rugby as we knew it yet showing it up for the scam that it is has “no relevance”?

I believe that has great relevance to the thread title that, remember, Trin Trin started it, , not me.

Yes I am berating posters for not backing up these accusations of me accusations such as:

unfeasible conspiracy theories
unfeasible ideas with no evidence.
fore fathers on wacky theories
overthought ramblings of a few individuals on t'internet.
crackpot theory
"unusual" ideas

I believe I have the right to do that, wouldn't you? That you and they have failed says it all.

My advice to you is join in the discussion and stop making it personal. As a moderator you do yourself no favours and setting a very bad example.
(excuse my pompous mode)
I now intend to get back on track with my next post. Can we please cut out the personal attacks and discuss the issues. If you don't like it them no one is forcing you to reply. And after all, looking at the above comments I'm pretty harmless, Aren't I?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:01 pm  

Miro wrote:

Now you say:
You have put 2 + 2 together and decided that all that we see now is part of some kind of "masterplan", a "world reset".

Not my 2+2 but the intentions of the World Economic Forum. (global leaders from the United Nations, United Kingdom, United States, International Monetary Fund and multi-national corporations.) I don't believe these people use the back of a fag packet.

“Well, whoever is going to lead the new world had better be quick as many nations are beginning to get this thing under control and there chance may have already passed.”

I never claimed it would succeed, I don't believe it will. Yes, they may be too late. We agree.
But that is no consolation to the victims.
By the way, where is it “under control” and where all restrictions have ended. And why the need for a Vaccine that will be out of date by the time of "covid ver 2"? Or shall we call it covid Vista.

“I do hope that the new political party that was going to sweep the nation isn't Mr Farage and his Brexit / Reform party ??”

No idea what your talking about here. But you keep shooting the messenger and avoid discussion of the WEF. I don't believe they will thank you for the “fag packet” reference. At least I take them seriously enough to, at the very, least highlight them and ask questions.

The people that you are quoting DID NOT reach the same conclusions that you have, they merely discussed the response to such events ??
Sorry pay but, you are getting VERY mixed up.

Just because something is on an agenda at a conference doesn't mean that it will happen but, it is right and proper, that, given that there have been other virus's and diseases, some idea of the best action should be discussed.

How many times do you think nuclear attack has been discussed - it doesn't mean that it will happen

If you don't believe some of your "apparitions" will happen, why on earth are you going to such lengths to bombard us with so many tenuous links ?

Just like the guy, who's views you have never researched, you say dont shoot the messenger ??

For you to regurgitate so much crap, it's reasonable to assume that you share these views.
Therefore, you cant sidestep and say that you are any kind of messenger.

It is YOU who has joined the dots so, take some responsibility or, perhaps filter your output

As for where it is "under control", perhaps you could do some research.
The far east would be a very good starting point oh yea and the customers for your shop with infections and deaths at 0.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:43 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The people that you are quoting DID NOT reach the same conclusions that you have, they merely discussed the response to such events ??
Sorry pay but, you are getting VERY mixed up.

Just because something is on an agenda at a conference doesn't mean that it will happen but, it is right and proper, that, given that there have been other virus's and diseases, some idea of the best action should be discussed.

How many times do you think nuclear attack has been discussed - it doesn't mean that it will happen

If you don't believe some of your "apparitions" will happen, why on earth are you going to such lengths to bombard us with so many tenuous links ?

Just like the guy, who's views you have never researched, you say dont shoot the messenger ??

For you to regurgitate so much crap, it's reasonable to assume that you share these views.
Therefore, you cant sidestep and say that you are any kind of messenger.

It is YOU who has joined the dots so, take some responsibility or, perhaps filter your output

As for where it is "under control", perhaps you could do some research.
The far east would be a very good starting point oh yea and the customers for your shop with infections and deaths at 0.

Why do you believe it is a "response? Because they say so? You have no inside knowledge.
Why do you believe them?
Why are you not at the very least prepared to question their motives. Has history teached you nothing?
Is there a track record for these people to be honest and upright in all their past dealings? Tony Blaire may help you with this question.
Where is it under control with no restrictions? The "far east" is rather vague.

Five and a half rather simple questions for you.

If you cannot answer these questions then my opinions may hold more water than you give them credit for.

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:08 pm  

Miro wrote:

I don't understand, why are you reminding me this is a rugby forum when the title of the thread is “What now for fans watching ? COVID chat” and so many times I have tried to re introduce rugby back into the thread, as I did just prior to your post. So why the need to remind me?
Here is the quote from my last post”

“That this plandemic is depriving us of rugby as we knew it yet showing it up for the scam that it is has “no relevance”?

I believe that has great relevance to the thread title that, remember, Trin Trin started it, ,

Well because you never talk about rugby that's why.

Anyway, I've made my point. Post within AUP. Don't hassle other posters. Simples.

There is nothing new on this thread for me now. I'll post again when someone raises a new point to discuss.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:50 pm  

Miro wrote:

Why do you believe it is a "response? Because they say so? You have no inside knowledge.
Why do you believe them?
Why are you not at the very least prepared to question their motives. Has history teached you nothing?
Is there a track record for these people to be honest and upright in all their past dealings? Tony Blaire may help you with this question.
Where is it under control with no restrictions? The "far east" is rather vague.

Five and a half rather simple questions for you.

If you cannot answer these questions then my opinions may hold more water than you give them credit for.

Dont you get it.
The conference that seems to have convinced you that a world re set is taking place was a "conference".
Effectively a get together to discuss certain issues.

Are you seriously telling "us" that, the get together took place in order to decide how to infect "the world" with a virus - UNBELIEVABLE

You ask about honesty.??
I'd like to start with your own "honesty".

There is zero "balance" in any of your output.
Your endless posts on here follow the same made up narrative, without any consideration that people are generally trying to solve a problem.

I do think there are questions to be answered as to exactly where the "new" virus came from and how it grew to the scale that it has but, I believe that those questions will be answered once "we" finally get on top of the thing.

If I had time (and lots of it) I would go back through your many spurious arguments and pick them apart one by one.

From memory, you've suggested a "global re set" - no evidence whatsoever that this is happening.
A vaccine to be used to "control" the population. WOW, just WOW
Face coverings to "control the population", WOW
A new political party - so far we have Farage re naming his Brexit party - BIG DEAL
Bill Gates as some kind of major "bad guy" - there is a long, long list of far worse and we can start with Trump, Xi, Johnson etc, etc, etc.

Do I really need to go on

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:19 pm  

Looks like some of the authors on the BMJ are also questioning the agendas being rolled out of this health crisis "Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas." https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44 ... aign=usage Shall we consider the BMJ to be "conspiracy theorists" too?

Looks like some of the authors on the BMJ are also questioning the agendas being rolled out of this health crisis "Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas." https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44 ... aign=usage Shall we consider the BMJ to be "conspiracy theorists" too?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:51 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote: Looks like some of the authors on the BMJ are also questioning the agendas being rolled out of this health crisis "Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas." https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44 ... aign=usage Shall we consider the BMJ to be "conspiracy theorists" too? Granted there maybe a few points that could be used for governments "supressing science" but this line made me laugh "The leak revealed inappropriate involvement of government advisers in SAGE" - By that they mean that the government chief advisor attended a SAGE meeting LOL. Also this article goes into the the DH with holding reports parts of a report on ethnic minorities and only posted it as there was an outcry, that is just not true in the slightest, when they published the report they stated there would be a follow up report, there was also a log of it on the GOV website on PM discussions, go back to the date it was published and read the audit of the phone calls, it is there for all to see.

MatthewTrin wrote: Looks like some of the authors on the BMJ are also questioning the agendas being rolled out of this health crisis "Globally, people, policies, and procurement are being corrupted by political and commercial agendas." https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m44 ... aign=usage Shall we consider the BMJ to be "conspiracy theorists" too? Granted there maybe a few points that could be used for governments "supressing science" but this line made me laugh "The leak revealed inappropriate involvement of government advisers in SAGE" - By that they mean that the government chief advisor attended a SAGE meeting LOL. Also this article goes into the the DH with holding reports parts of a report on ethnic minorities and only posted it as there was an outcry, that is just not true in the slightest, when they published the report they stated there would be a follow up report, there was also a log of it on the GOV website on PM discussions, go back to the date it was published and read the audit of the phone calls, it is there for all to see.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:03 pm  

Just another point as well as I have followed Kamran Abbasi on his public outrage on some of the public procurements over the last few months a long with a few others, in some cases labelling them as "Corrupt", labelling some of the procurement department "incompetent" as there were large contracts awarded without a call for competition, I would urge him to take an actual look at the awards and how they were made and see how they align to the Public Contract regulations under 32 or 72, I think he would be relatively surprised by his findings.

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Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:39 pm  

I absolutely expect someone to have profited unfairly from all this.
Someone always does in times of need.
Hopefully when they do they are brought to justice and procecuted.