: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:35 pm  

Sadly if something isn’t done soon Rugby league will go the way of Football, we must not for one minute think that this is a problem that only exists at Wakefield.

Unfortunately this is a super league wide problem for only last week whilst at Saints I was stood in front of a young lady, (term used loosely) who was F-ing and Blinding throughout the entire game questioning Wakefield and at times Saints parentage, sorry I thought for a moment that the undisclosed parentage of the referee went without out saying.

This I feel the Rugby League needs to bring to a halt before it is given the chance to develop any further.

And I’m sure if you ask any true Rugby League fan regardless of allegiance they will tell you it happens at every club including their own.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:07 pm  

BenchWarmer wrote:

Im afraid the name of th thread is wrong! The guy down the side had an accomplice, helped keep the questioning of the refs parentage constant. Not much need in half of it to be honest.

Yeah that was him, i know it sounds contradictory to my complaint with him, but at full time I was nearly ready to punch him. (I restrained myself so I don't class myself as another hooligan lol)

That will have been the one Radio Leeds could have heard, if they were on the "construction" that sits behind the west terrace. He really did my head in and i'm sure i wouldn't have left the match half as annoyed at the defeat had he not been there. If I had been a parent and my kid was nearby, we would have probably ended up havin a serious argument - absolutelt no need for at least 40mins of constant abuse at the top of his voice.

I think that a zero tolerance would be a step too far, everyone get annoyed and passionate at times, and i have been known to vent my opinion in a rather crass way occasionally, when a certain event has happened, and i think it should only be consistent offenders who should be escorted out.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:17 pm  

TrinityIHC wrote:

That will have been the one Radio Leeds could have heard, if they were on the "construction" that sits behind the west terrace.

I think the radio folk sit in the stand

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:20 pm  

There was a lad stood near us -behind the sticks - who was foul mouthed all the way through, criticising players for playing.. etc etc..
When a bloke with two young kids turned round and told him to shut it...they very nearly came to blows with the lad stating he would f**king say what he liked before storming off, only to come back and continue. Didnt help he was drinking all game though, one after another without stopping for breath!!
Maybe there needs to be more stewards spread over the crowd rather than stood at the back looking useless.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:26 pm  

crzaycat wrote:

Maybe there needs to be more stewards spread over the crowd rather than stood at the back looking useless.

As stated earlier it is the quality of the stewards we should be concentrating on not the quantity. I know the HKR stewards wont have many fans on here but they look the part and take what they do seriously and apply the rules. Stewards are being asked to do an increasingly dangerous job for very little money and are often treated as figures of fun rather than respected professionals like say a police officer.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:34 pm  

J.T wrote:

As stated earlier it is the quality of the stewards we should be concentrating on not the quantity. I know the HKR stewards wont have many fans on here but they look the part and take what they do seriously and apply the rules. Stewards are being asked to do an increasingly dangerous job for very little money and are often treated as figures of fun rather than respected professionals like say a police officer.

So we need doorman-like stewards rather than student-like ones?

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:41 pm  

t-r-i-n-i-t-y wrote:

So we need doorman-like stewards rather than student-like ones?

Yes. Those intent on causing bother are not going to be put off by our current stewards as they know they will take no action. If the threat of being thrown out and banned was a serious one or if these people felt intimidated by the stewards it would cut 99% of the problems as the majority of them will be cowards.

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:41 pm  

Sun Bed Kid wrote:

speaking of pillocks, 2 little kids near the beer van thought it was funny to break all the plastic glasses and their dumb scrubber of a father just laughed at them. no wonder our country is in decline

look on the good side mate, at least they didn't throw them on the pitch because we lost .

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:05 pm  

adam9641 wrote:

Thought you was talking about the idiot stood near us lot.

It might be an idea to change the title to pillocks

Explain one thing to me, Adam, because I just don't get it.

You criticise fans for the abuse they dish out during the game and their foul language, but you think it's OK to post the "Sculthorpe song" on here and encourage others to join in the sing-song. Where's the difference? What am I missing here?

I ask the questions sincerely, because I genuinely don't understand why people complain about being pulled up for swearing on this forum, or post vulgar songs about players that they want to sing at matches, and then criticise some nobody in the ground who swears his head off all afternoon and is caught doing so on Radio Leeds.

Standards have to start somewhere. We all swear, we all lose it at times, but maybe the emphasis should be on self-control and setting a good example? Decent people - that's how we'd all like to be remembered by other fans, isn't it?

: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:11 pm  

J.T wrote:

The only way you will get a decent level of stewarding is if they get proper training, a decent wage and a bit of respect sadly they get none of that and who is gonna risk getting a 'kicking' on minimum wage?

The club are on a loser from the word go on this one, in my opinion. The alternative to the student type of steward we have at the moment (who you rightly say is not interested in putting themself at risk) is the 'bouncer' type steward as seen at Hull KR. Those lads took no crap from the lads who decided they wanted to stand up throughout the game, and look at the flack they got on here they got as a result.

I think the most likely way to stamp this out is if us (and by 'us' I mean decent, reasonably well behaved) fans to ensure these undesirables using repeated and unessecery foul and abusive language are made clear to them that this type of behaviour unwelcome - becuase the one thing I know for certain is that there are plenty more decent fand than there are idiots. I am sure there is an old proverb about all that evil needs to prosper is for good men to do nothing - now I know its a bit melodromatic but the point stands for me.