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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:10 pm  
The 'mighty' Peacock ARLFC used to play on Balne Lane fields!
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:17 pm  
For a start, I wish people would forget about re developing belle vue once and for all. The site is too cramped, there is no way G88 will pay to develop it, and finally it could not be bought because G88 have had it revalued at circa £8M.

Secondly Yorkcourt have already made an absolute mint out of getting planning at Newmarket. However they are not satisfied with that there is a way they can make much more. If they don't have to shell out for a stadium it makes them about another £9M. Then if they can get planning for housing on the stadium site they make millions more. So how do they do this ?

Quite simple they get their friendly council to come up with the most feasible sounding plan they can think of. The council convince everyone the alternative plan will happen. Once everyone has been duped , Yorkcourt put a totally fresh planning application for all Newmarket with housing and no stadium. The council convince no one to object and force a judicial revue. Warning that the Newmarket amended planning applilication is essential to fund the new statdium plan.

Yorkcourt get their new application through without much opposition. Once that happens, there is no going back, no legal avenues to complain , that's the end.


However the new stadium development has been handed to the puppet Walker and his phoney trust to oversea. Then slowly but surely problems will start to emerge and eventually the whole new stadium will be scuppered just like the half or dozen other schemes that have failed with this council.


By this time everyone will be much richer, the club will have just about gone and everyone will live happily ever after, appart from the Wakefield tririnty supporters who will have been finally shafted for good.
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:26 pm  
Bang on PB, anyone who thinks that 88M, Yorkcourt and Box have any interest in doing anything what so ever to assist Trinity are completely mad.
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:25 pm  
[quote="sandcat20"]There are several points here. I grew up on Balne Lane and spent most of my time on those playing fields which we used to call "The Tips". It may sound like a peculiar name until you realise that that is just what they were at one time - the council rubbish dump!. Once they had got to a suitable level some soil was dumped on top and playing fields created. This was back in the late 40's, early 50's. They were then OK for a long time with football and rugby pitches, a cricket pitch (tarmac!) and a building for changing rooms. Eventually it fell into disrepair due to lack of maintenance. Many, many years later I worked at Wakefield College and I was asked if I knew anything about the playing fields. I think that the college owned them at that point and was looking at selling them off as building land to get some money. However there was this clause about community use. The problem for the college was they couldn't be used as sports fields due to broken glass, tin cans and all sorts of other stuff from the council tip days being exposed by erosion etc. It would have been too expensive to dig it out to a sufficient depth, make sure there weren't any nasties like asbestos in it and then deposit an enormous amount of topsoil on it. In the end nothing happened and the site is as it is at the moment - a right headache for whoever owns it. I reckon that the cost of "rehabilitating" the land would be too much for anyone given the covenant on the land.

The next point is access. The streets around the site are all very narrow with a limited number of approaches. At Belle Vue you can approach from 4 different directions with ease. With Balne Lane playing fields there is only Balne Lane itself which is not very wide and has on street parking. There is no road to the fields themselves, only a small lane with a bridge that could not take the weight (literally and figuratively) of the traffic. It is wide enough for one car width and would probably collapse under weight of a decent 4x4!

Linked to that point is the access from town via Balne Lane. There is a bridge under the main Westgate - Leeds main line. This isn't wide enough for 2 cars to pass in compfort and give way markings have been put on the down side to avoid problems. Anyone who goes that way at rush hour can tell you what a problem it is. It could not carry all the match day traffic from the north of the city. From other direction traffic would have to go through Flanshaw Estate, again with narrow roads. There is no way that any planning officer could approve such a plan without enormous road changes with (probably) astronomic expense. WMDC doesn't have that kind of money.

I could go on but it's becoming an essay rather than a post so I'll shut up now except to say it seems a load of b******s![/quote]

you've just wrote what I would of put on here we walk our dogs on there and its a shocking piece of land, not only it has mickey poor access the new estate will surly put up complaint.
looks like the council are through darts at a map hoping to find some where
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:54 pm  
Think it was the law of averages that suggests Balne Lane area. We've been everywhere else in the city.
If an art centre is needed in Wakefield, a site is quickly identified and pursued. I don't seem to recall all these problems with the Hepworth Coal Bunker. County archives centre likewise.
we've been at the stadium years and nowhere near a brick laid. Unbelievable.
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:06 pm  
Are the old Grasmere Road playing fields off Batley Road still in Council ownership? I don't know if they would accommodate a 10,000 capacity stadium and parking but..................?
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:05 pm  
Anyone who knows that area realises that it's so unsuitable for that kind of development it's laughable that Box has even put this out in the public domain as some kind of development.

After listening to MC being interviewed on the Super League show (I think) a few weeks ago about some news to be released & him seeming positive, I honestly believed that there had been genuine progress made.

Well if I've been waiting for this announcement, more fool me & I'm sure a few others. I've tried to remain positive, but this is one bad joke too far.
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:02 pm  
Good location better than Belle Vue, close to City centre for parking, next to train station and walking distance from bus station, brilliant for us Wrenny lads just walk over the park and through Peacock. Surely the council can't mess up another Wakefield community stadium development.

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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:11 pm  
Has anyone on here seen this weeks Cas & Pontefract Express front page out yesterday. WMDC £750 million earmarked for the "Towns" including a £27 million leisure centre. Says it all about what WMDC think about a £10 to £12 million Community Stadium for Wakefield.
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Re: Stadium : Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:29 pm  
KevW60349 wrote:
Has anyone on here seen this weeks Cas & Pontefract Express front page out yesterday. WMDC £750 million earmarked for the "Towns" including a £27 million leisure centre. Says it all about what WMDC think about a £10 to £12 million Community Stadium for Wakefield.

The council should be spending on leisure centres for all the district they redeveloped sun lane a few years ago and have shut a few over that way so they should replace with new facilities. This is not about money distributed across different areas of the district it's about political will to get the community stadium that was promised and is owed to the City of Wakefield.

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