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new rules : Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:06 pm  
Interchange down by 2! this will test our big forwards!!!! don't like it
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Re: new rules : Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:28 pm  
Just had a quick look at the new rules to be brought into our game ,and it’s a thumbs up from me if it cuts out the gamesmanship that’s been creeping into our game for a while now .
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:41 am  
I've said before I wonder if it will change anything as far as say prop interchanges go. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see many changes with how they're interchanged, but Coaches will look at other areas, especially how the bench is made up and getting back rowers to play longer minutes to cover the loss. Gonna be interesting to see what happens and one thing for sure is that those on the bench will play longer minutes and in some games, coaches didn't even use everyone on their bench, usually the spare back, that'll change now.

All the others I'm in favor of, not sure we need golden point mind.
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:10 am  
Shifty Cat wrote:
I've said before I wonder if it will change anything as far as say prop interchanges go. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see many changes with how they're interchanged, but Coaches will look at other areas, especially how the bench is made up and getting back rowers to play longer minutes to cover the loss. Gonna be interesting to see what happens and one thing for sure is that those on the bench will play longer minutes and in some games, coaches didn't even use everyone on their bench, usually the spare back, that'll change now.

All the others I'm in favor of, not sure we need golden point mind.


I think coaches will manage the decrease in interchanges ok, probably some tactical ones bearing the brunt of the reduction as opposed to the props who need the break.
IMO the golden point is unnecessary and may deprive a team of a well earned point.
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:28 am  
No problem with any of the rule changes except the golden point. What is so wrong with a well earned draw?
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:38 am  
I don't really like the golden point but with Brough playing I'm more confident that we will win those games now.

The subs change I like. Its designed to make gaps so we see more rugby. You can't just have an American football style monster interchange now.
And although we have a big pack, there is only PP I see as suffering fitness unless he loses his required pounds.

At the moment props play 2 x 20 minute stints each as standard. That takes 6 interchanges of the total 10. Hooker usually change once sometimes twice. 2 max gives us 8. Leaving 2 for back row. Chester likes to swap 13 so that leaves one.

If you change that to spell props after 20 mind and 60 mins, the middle prop getting a break at half time... Meaning you create 2 extra interchanges.
So start with England and PP for 20 mins.
Put Dave and Kopczek on at 20 min mark.
Leave them on till 60 mins then bring England and PP back on. 4 subs used.
If you change 9 once it gives us 4 subs spare for injuries and adhoc changes during the game.

The biggest problem for me is momentum in the game and concentration of the players.
The reason coaches like the 2 20 minutes stints of the props is that it is a double impact at 20 minutes. You have 2 fresh players rather than one at a time. If you stagger the interchange to have an overall less usage, you don't get the big impact but you do get a steadier team.

If you increase the time on the field like I showed above, you get more of say Fifita in one stint which is good, but it means the first man on, would be sat down for possibly 50 minutes with 20 either side of half time and the extra 10 minutes. Staying focused will be hard for those players.

The only must have for me is that we play 2 9s and 4 props. Wood on the bench gives us a big boost when he comes on but also gives us cover at half and it's shown every time someone tries to go with 3 props that it creates a hole in the team.
Kirmond playing may make a difference to interchange. At his best he is a great boost but he needs more rest than he used to so it's a consideration.
Same with King and Arona at 13. I like both. With more interchanges you can play both. We might have to choose in the new era.
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:12 am  
Regarding speeding up scrums , dropouts and so on, there’s always the fake injury approach which I’m afraid will still happen and I bet it’s always in the line of play when play has to be halted.
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:02 pm  
Big lads mate wrote:
Regarding speeding up scrums , dropouts and so on, there’s always the fake injury approach which I’m afraid will still happen and I bet it’s always in the line of play when play has to be halted.


The biggest issue with that is when the ref half-heartedly tells the physio to move the player, and both just ignore him and carrying on applying a big comedy bandage or whatever; for my money, tell them once, then crack on, and if the physio gets clattered, tough tits.
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:22 pm  
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No problem with any of the rule changes except the golden point. What is so wrong with a well earned draw?

Not as good as Two Points :D
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Re: new rules : Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:44 pm  
little wayne69 wrote:
Not as good as Two Points :D


Works both ways Wayne! you might not be smiling if you've fought back to earn a draw and the other team gets the ground to take two points!
The rule is there so we live with it.
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