Fatigue - the new order ! : Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:01 pm  

The RFL want more fatigue in the play of a match ! Especially in the last 20-15 mins, more attrition this will impact on players & increases the chance of more injuries. It also comes back to wear & tear of previous matches as all players towards the middle & end of the season carry injuries, are we as a game turning a blind eye to players long term welfare at the expense of requiring more excitement ?
Any thoughts ???

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:20 pm  

Bad rule . the more subs the better & rested players have the ability to freshen a game up. We will finish up with the winners being the team that doesn't fall off tackles. Player welfare must be the first point to be considered.

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:53 pm  

I read that too. It’s in the shot clock reasoning. What a stupid explanation I thought.

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:21 am  

its always been part of the game to wear your opponents down so you win the game,
I was told if you came of the pitch and wasn't exhausted then you haven't given your all, in fact players can come off for a rest where before the players was changed tactically and couldn't return

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Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:30 am  

Quite the opposite.
RL injuries aren't caused by fatigue. They are caused by big impact from well muscled fresh players.
If they are tired they are slower and more gaps to run through rather than wall of forwards.

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:19 am  

PopTart wrote:

Quite the opposite.
RL injuries aren't caused by fatigue. They are caused by big impact from well muscled fresh players.
If they are tired they are slower and more gaps to run through rather than wall of forwards.

You just contradicted your first point with your second point, It`s still fatigue that is responsible for a lot of injuries.

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:23 am  

Agree with the OP on this, they seem to forget player welfare in lieu of these ideas they come up with (Most of them silly ideas that are thrown out of the window soon after) until unfortunately they have to be reminded, I remember a few seasons back with the terrible tragedy of the passing of Danny Jones, they introduced a brief water break every so often in the height of the summer games... Do they still do that? I didn`t see it at all last season and there was a fair few games we played in high temperatures.

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Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:09 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

You just contradicted your first point with your second point, It`s still fatigue that is responsible for a lot of injuries.

No I didn't. You don't get injured running through gaps.
You get injured hitting another person.

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:34 pm  

PopTart wrote:

No I didn't. You don't get injured running through gaps.
You get injured hitting another person.

I don't think that's the best way to put it as a player can pick up an injury at any point, I think that reducing the amount of fresh players on the pitch will remove advantages for certain sides where they have the option to bring on a "big hitter" and cause other players to pick up an injury but throughout sport as a whole you literally see players picking up injuries in the weirdest ways... Football related but the LuaLua celebration against Arsenal where he did the backflip and injured his foot in the landing?

Jokes aside I think the best way to put it is "players are injured more often hitting another person than running through gaps" rather than "You don't get injured running through gaps"

Re: Fatigue - the new order ! : Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:45 pm  

PopTart wrote:

No I didn't. You don't get injured running through gaps.
You get injured hitting another person.

Sorry PT misread your post, my point still stands in that I believe fatigue is the influence behind a lot of injuries that we see.

If you break fatigue down you could put it into two main characteristics: decreased ability of the Central Nervous System which effects the function of muscle contraction and the actual short term damage to the muscle i.e. mini tear of muscle fibres, on set of lactic acid etc - Both of these elements lead to loss of movement efficiency that occurs throughout any kind of Physical activity, leading to players quite easily exaggerating all different kinds of movements which can lead to all kinds of injuries mainly Ligament or tendon damage and muscle pulls and tears. Knee injuries, you will see 1 in 5 probably that are caused as a result of a tackle, the other 4 will be down to a movement taken by the player himself, Hamstring injuries you hear of all the time, tears, strains but you will never see one as a result of anybody else but the players own movements. I could go on and on.

Yes I think some injuries are part and parcel of our game and the physicality that comes along with it, of course they are, but to suggest a large amount of inuries that we see are not down to fatigue is just wrong. I don`t think there is anything wrong with the game as it is at the moment that we play in SL but that`s just me.