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What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:14 am  
I ask this after reading Adam Pearson article in today’s LE. He quotes “ we”ll be bringing in five or six in from Australia at the end of this year. I’m sure when we come access these players, the prices will have gone up so much they’ll automatically be marquee signings”.
At what price does a player become a marquee signing, does it count on the salary cap, or is this just another loophole for wealthy clubs to exceed the salary cap which is l think is currently 2.2 million, and who decides if a player is a marquee signing.

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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:33 am  
Only the first 150k (75k if homegrown) of a players salary counts on the salary cap. You can pay him what you want.

For example Hull could sign two Aussies for next year and pay them a million quid each a year if they wanted to but only 300k of it would count on the cap.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:50 am  
There is no limit to a marquee player salary.
You could pay them a £1million or £151k and in both cases you'd only be assessed for £150k on the salary cap.

For us we don't even spend to the limit so it really isn't an issue to us.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:35 am  
A player that erects large tents in his spare time. :)
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:52 am  
Not an issue for us at this time but if I were a coach I would be cautious about using the Marquee rule, as it would be a sure fire way to start grumblings in any squad by plonking someone with an Aussie accent in there on 5 times (at least) the salary of his team mates. We all know what sports teams dressing rooms are like for that (especially football!).

Its a short sighted rule for me and doesn't do anything to resolve the greater issues with the game over here. The fact Pearson is looking to being 5 or 6 in from Oz tells you where they are.

I've read comments on forums rumouring the situation at Leeds with their marquee signings and players in their squad asking if they are really worth it - mainly Merrin. Ironic really seeing as their success late last decade and early this was based round a wage structure through the squad - I remember Sinfield after a GF saying they could all earn more elsewhere but they work together as a team etc.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:52 pm  
Cats13 wrote:
Not an issue for us at this time but if I were a coach I would be cautious about using the Marquee rule, as it would be a sure fire way to start grumblings in any squad by plonking someone with an Aussie accent in there on 5 times (at least) the salary of his team mates. We all know what sports teams dressing rooms are like for that (especially football!).

Its a short sighted rule for me and doesn't do anything to resolve the greater issues with the game over here. The fact Pearson is looking to being 5 or 6 in from Oz tells you where they are.

I've read comments on forums rumouring the situation at Leeds with their marquee signings and players in their squad asking if they are really worth it - mainly Merrin. Ironic really seeing as their success late last decade and early this was based round a wage structure through the squad - I remember Sinfield after a GF saying they could all earn more elsewhere but they work together as a team etc.



What about the case of wigan accents where tomkins and williams have been marquee'd and their fans have been complaining about over paid and under performing.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:02 pm  
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There is no limit to a marquee player salary.
You could pay them a £1million or £151k and in both cases you'd only be assessed for £150k on the salary cap.

For us we don't even spend to the limit so it really isn't an issue to us.

So, if Adam Pearson signs six Australian marquee players, then 6x£150.000=£900.000, out of 2.2 million cap. Hull will need to reduce their squad size or individual player wages. I admit I know nothing of what players earn, but 1,3 million between say, another 21 squad players at Hull, seems a tight budget.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:12 pm  
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So, if Adam Pearson signs six Australian marquee players, then 6x£150.000=£900.000, out of 2.2 million cap. Hull will need to reduce their squad size or individual player wages. I admit I know nothing of what players earn, but 1,3 million between say, another 21 squad players at Hull, seems a tight budget.



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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:14 pm  
What happened to the Hull hot bed of Rugby League? Who's the last quality player to come through, Shaul?

Anyway if they can afford it then go for it.
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Re: What is a marquee player : Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:27 pm  
Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
What about the case of wigan accents where tomkins and williams have been marquee'd and their fans have been complaining about over paid and under performing.


I'd forgotten about that to be honest, but a sound example nonetheless.

Austin looks the business and on current form I bet there's no arguments at the wire about what he is getting paid due to the difference he makes to the team. On the flip side - Tyrone Roberts....
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