Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 11:56 am  

bren2k wrote:

It's Chris Houston - and I agree - it's such a rare incident, that it seems perverse for Parcell to be 'accidentally' in collision with the ref 3 times in 2 games.

There's an argument to say that the ref may well have been badly positioned - but it's not for a player to demonstrate that by deliberately clattering into him to prove a point; and I say deliberately quite deliberately - no player is that clumsy, or unfortunate, or whatever other excuse will be made by Printer to explain away these events.

Sorry, yes, Chris. I know a Stewart Houston, sort of, so that first name was lodged in my head alongside that surname.

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 12:03 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

It does seem strange for it to happen 3 times in two games but probably only goes to show it be accidental. If you get away with a warning one week you’re hardly going to purposely not only do it again ONCE but TWICE the next week especially with your team leading. You can also say it’s strange that Parcell hasn’t done it in 2 and a halfway years he’s been here, so randomly deciding he’s now going to use it as a deliberate ploy is far fetched.

You seem obsessed with the position of the referee; which is a bit like using the position of a pedestrian as your defence when you've just mown him down.

The referee has a right to be wherever he deems it necessary for him to be - he exercises that right, and it's explicitly the responsibility of the players to avoid coming into contact with him; something which Matt Parcell has failed to do on 3 occasions in 2 games - more than any other player I can recall in a number of *years* let alone games.

I have no idea why he's doing it - but I refuse to believe that as an agile, speed-conditioned athlete with extreme levels of alertness and spatial awareness, he has been totally unable to avoid those collisions on all 3 occasions. Maybe it's petulance, maybe it's frustration, maybe it's something else - but it's not a series of unfortunate accidents.

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 4:44 pm  

bren2k wrote:

You seem obsessed with the position of the referee; which is a bit like using the position of a pedestrian as your defence when you've just mown him down.

The referee has a right to be wherever he deems it necessary for him to be - he exercises that right, and it's explicitly the responsibility of the players to avoid coming into contact with him; something which Matt Parcell has failed to do on 3 occasions in 2 games - more than any other player I can recall in a number of *years* let alone games.

I have no idea why he's doing it - but I refuse to believe that as an agile, speed-conditioned athlete with extreme levels of alertness and spatial awareness, he has been totally unable to avoid those collisions on all 3 occasions. Maybe it's petulance, maybe it's frustration, maybe it's something else - but it's not a series of unfortunate accidents.

I’m not “obsessed” with the refs positioning, it’s just a pretty key factor in an issue of a player colliding with a ref (comparing it someone being hit by a car is pretty poor taste and OTT btw)

The ref does have a right to be where he wants but doesn’t make him free from criticism or make it an impossibility that he made a poor movement/positioning.

Funny that you refuse to believe it’s accidental because I refuse to believe that the fact that Leeds’ next game happens to be against Wakefield isn’t why SOME of you are so keen to see him banned and making a deal of it. Sure you’d be as bothered if we weren’t facing you again this season

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 4:49 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

I’m not “obsessed” with the refs positioning, it’s just a pretty key factor in an issue of a player colliding with a ref (comparing it someone being hit by a car is pretty poor taste and OTT btw)

The ref does have a right to be where he wants but doesn’t make him free from criticism or make it an impossibility that he made a poor movement/positioning.

Funny that you refuse to believe it’s accidental because I refuse to believe that the fact that Leeds’ next game happens to be against Wakefield isn’t why SOME of you are so keen to see him banned and making a deal of it. Sure you’d be as bothered if we weren’t facing you again this season

can we get Parcell reprieved and get you banned for the next few weeks instead, he makes little impact anyway

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 4:57 pm  

snowie wrote:

can we get Parcell reprieved and get you banned for the next few weeks instead, he makes little impact anyway

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 6:36 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Sorry, yes, Chris. I know a Stewart Houston, sort of, so that first name was lodged in my head alongside that surname.

Centre half for Manchester United in the 70s, a bit of useless information

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Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 7:23 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

I’m not “obsessed” with the refs positioning, it’s just a pretty key factor in an issue of a player colliding with a ref (comparing it someone being hit by a car is pretty poor taste and OTT btw)

The ref does have a right to be where he wants but doesn’t make him free from criticism or make it an impossibility that he made a poor movement/positioning.

Funny that you refuse to believe it’s accidental because I refuse to believe that the fact that Leeds’ next game happens to be against Wakefield isn’t why SOME of you are so keen to see him banned and making a deal of it. Sure you’d be as bothered if we weren’t facing you again this season

If the ref has a right to be where he wants....... How can he get it wrong? I don't understand.

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 9:03 pm  

PopTart wrote:

If the ref has a right to be where he wants....... How can he get it wrong? I don't understand.

Common sense, if a player was clear through and the ref ran straight at him and collided with him would you say the ref had a right to be there? If a team broke and he managed to get himself right in between the supporting player the try scoring pass would’ve gone to.

There’s a right to be where he wants....with common sense. He shouldn’t be stopping defenders stopping tries because they’ve had to divert around him or stop in their tracks.

Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 9:05 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Common sense, if a player was clear through and the ref ran straight at him and collided with him would you say the ref had a right to be there? If a team broke and he managed to get himself right in between the supporting player the try scoring pass would’ve gone to.

There’s a right to be where he wants....with common sense. He shouldn’t be stopping defenders stopping tries because they’ve had to divert around him or stop in their tracks.

You're obviously not going to let this go.

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Re: Matt Parcell : Tue May 28, 2019 9:42 pm  

wakeytrin wrote:

You're obviously not going to let this go.

Nope.