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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:32 pm  
King Street Cat wrote:
Or is the injury worse than first thought? He was rumoured to be back for the Leeds game, but has missed another game since that one.

Chester said they couldn't get to the bottom of David's foot injury.
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:29 pm  
wakeytrin wrote:
Chester said they couldn't get to the bottom of David's foot injury.

He had some loose bone floating in his ankle, unfortunately having had it cleaned out, the ankle flared up resulting in them having to withdraw him from the Salford game.
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:34 pm  
We have trouble with edge defence on both sides of the field no matter who plays there and have had that trouble for at least 4 years.

BJB seems to have no confidence in his inside defenders and for good reason because they don’t do their jobs well and don’t work as a unit.

On the other side of the field how many times have we seen TJ left in no mans land because his inside defenders have failed to map outwards from the play the ball.

It’s been a frustration of mine for season after season, it’s not the fault of an individual player but rather the team as a defensive unit.
The fact that we haven’t or can’t fix it suggests that the coaching staff don’t understand how to coach defence or are incapable of passing on their knowledge.
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:46 pm  
Genuinely felt for kirmo on trin tv , the lad looks dejected and looking like one too many knocks on his already bad knees
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:46 pm  
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He had some loose bone floating in his ankle, unfortunately having had it cleaned out, the ankle flared up resulting in them having to withdraw him from the Salford game.

Thanks for that.
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:17 pm  
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Ben Jones Bishop, runs out of the defensive line, jumps up in the air for a ball he has no chance of catching (see Salford effort) , leaves his opposite winger unmarked...result try. Or, cuts inside to help his centre who, to be honest, needs no help in many cases (not always granted) . This has been his tactic for a few seasons now, never more evident than in the Salford game. Is this coached ? I hope not.


Agree 100%, Miro!!!!
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:01 pm  
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We have trouble with edge defence on both sides of the field no matter who plays there and have had that trouble for at least 4 years.

BJB seems to have no confidence in his inside defenders and for good reason because they don’t do their jobs well and don’t work as a unit.

On the other side of the field how many times have we seen TJ left in no mans land because his inside defenders have failed to map outwards from the play the ball.

It’s been a frustration of mine for season after season, it’s not the fault of an individual player but rather the team as a defensive unit.
The fact that we haven’t or can’t fix it suggests that the coaching staff don’t understand how to coach defence or are incapable of passing on their knowledge.


But at times BJB seems to be unable to close up even the narrowist of overlaps.
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Re: Not sure we are : Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:07 pm  
But, having criticised BJB, and others on the wing (like I and others have) for not closing the overlap, where is the full back in these situations? Traditionally, he was the last line of defense. In today's game the role of full back seems to be focused more on attacking qualities and tactics rather than the defensive role.
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Re: Not sure we are : Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:39 am  
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What's the issue with big Dave, I know he got an injury a few weeks back but past few press conferences Chester's said 'hopefully he'll put his hand up', almost like he thinks he could play if he wanted to but can't be arsed.

Gee that doesn't seem like something he would do :roll:
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Re: Not sure we are : Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:23 am  
Fishermanscap wrote:
Basically we’ve been found out in the forwards, we are soft especially when Dave isn’t playing. Only King has any go forward and he’s not a tackle buster though he does drag the game forward.

Arona - great but crocked
England - totally gone
Huby - who knows
PP - I really don’t know what’s gone on here
Hirst - only ever a filler, played more games than he’s up to imho

Kirmond - even more gone than England

Batchelor - has a poor season due mainly to injury
Ashurst - where is he?
Koppy - runs hot and cold
Crowther - dome what’s been asked of him
Anakin - what’s the point, I’m not a huge fan but he has to be a better option than Kirmond!!!!
Tangles - you have to feel sorry for him.

So on currentish form the only two forwards we have up for the fight are King, Fifita and Crowther. Not much to work with for any coach.

Not all Chester choices have been smart imo but you have to feel for the bloke.


With the benefit of hindsight, I think Kirmond should have gone to Bulls when Kear went there. "Leader of men" I think Kear has described him as - he knew that's what the Bulls (relatively) young squad needed.
I know Kear tried to get him - bit like Webster, P/T training, develop your off-field interests, easier on the body when your career has taken such a physical toll, but Wakefield wanted him and that was his decision. I agree, he looks physically shot now.
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