Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:40 pm  

after a performance like that how can you say your not sure players are not committed. I saw nothing from the vast majority to even come near to commitment. We have nothing to offer at the moment and most other clubs would be making major changes and insisting on a vast improvement. its so disheartening watching a performance like that and the travelling many will reduce in numbers the next time around. It used to be bad enough traveling back over the Pennines after a rank performance but I can only imagine what its like traveling home from France.

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:44 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

I’m not sure about the idea that players aren’t committed, lack passion, can’t be arsed. In my (very limited) playing experience, going in to a game with anything less than 100% commitment is a sure fire way to get injured. I like Chester very much and he’s not responsible for SL players being unable to pass or hold on to the ball. But he is responsible for the team’s basic lack of SL level skills - movement of the ball is slow, passes are transmitted, forwards take the ball standing still, tackling is abysmal, control of the ruck is poor, game management is poor, the defensive line is compressed and very rarely moves up at the ptb to cut down time and space, there’s no obvious game plan and equally nobody with any creative nous. He needs to address these issues and then we can see which players are taking the pi55. At the moment it’s hard for players to shine when the whole team coordination is a shambles. It’s down to CC.

Maybe it’s the back room team we have - we have probably spent less in that area so we can spend more on players but not sure it has worked. When Chester had an experienced man alongside him (kear and then Monaghan) we did look much more organised both defensively and in attack.

The injuries won’t have helped this season, but maybe the back room needs an overhaul including the conditioning department

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:08 pm  

Well what ever the reason the club need to put things right asap. I don't see that squad providing an up turn required to pull results out of the bag. I think we must be the easiest team to get a win from at the moment and with very little to offer in attack the chances of out scoring a team are remote. The players have to be made responsible and MUST commit probably a solid defensive performance may go a way to returning some confidence.

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:19 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

Well what ever the reason the club need to put things right asap. I don't see that squad providing an up turn required to pull results out of the bag. I think we must be the easiest team to get a win from at the moment and with very little to offer in attack the chances of out scoring a team are remote. The players have to be made responsible and MUST commit probably a solid defensive performance may go a way to returning some confidence.

The only saving grace is, even though London and HKR have improved, it's a tough ask for them to win 3, which is with us not winning. I just want to see us scrap and fight and defend like our lives depend on it against Cas, just like Leeds did. If we lose because they are better fair enough, but not because they simply wanted it more.

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:34 pm  

My point is that they can scrap and fight individually as much and as hard as they want but that won't be enough if they aren't organised and doing the basics well, as a team and with a plan. That's back to the coach.

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:47 pm  

Kevs Head wrote:

My point is that they can scrap and fight individually as much and as hard as they want but that won't be enough if they aren't organised and doing the basics well, as a team and with a plan. That's back to the coach.

Agreed, when you think about it we have nothing going for us at all at the minute do we?!

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:40 pm  

There may be trouble ahead! Still 32 degrees here in Canet. Recovery will be an issue for the game v Cas and they will come out of the blocks fast and try to blow us away. Shame we cannot conjure a few fresh bodies other than MCB.

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:15 pm  

Manuel wrote:

There may be trouble ahead! Still 32 degrees here in Canet. Recovery will be an issue for the game v Cas and they will come out of the blocks fast and try to blow us away. Shame we cannot conjure a few fresh bodies other than MCB.

Can't see recovery as been a major issue for next week ,we're talking top athletes here not a team from down the pub .
Our major issues are shoring up our defences, running onto the ball at pace ,giving away penalties and stopping the offloads ,all basics of the game but for some unknown reason it either doesn't sink in or is not coached in the first place .Get these basics right and we will become a competitive team who won't be the fall guys for every team supposedly targeting us as a win .

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:39 pm  

Manuel wrote:

There may be trouble ahead! Still 32 degrees here in Canet. Recovery will be an issue for the game v Cas and they will come out of the blocks fast and try to blow us away. Shame we cannot conjure a few fresh bodies other than MCB.

Not sure how fresh MCB will be given he is still playing sevens rugby in the Cayman Islands!

Re: Not sure we are : Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:52 pm  

Top athletes ? Sorry for having an opinion, should have known better.