Re: Projected Outcome : Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:42 am  

BOJ042 wrote:

why are they on holidays? they get six months off in September - our already unfit forwards getting more unfit drinking and eating with no training

Six months off? Pretty sure the majority of the squad are back in for pre season mid November.

Re: Projected Outcome : Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:09 am  

Assuming right up until we crashed out of the cup against Saints then surely no one would have been allowed to book a holiday for this time? Given the boat we were in at the time and continue to be in I think its poor. It doesn't look good in the current situation.

[PopTart]

Re: Projected Outcome : Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:17 am  

I'm happy for them to have a break.
We need to be playing stress free and we are clearly playing like we are frightened to really go for it.

A couple of days then back to training as a team and I think it will help a lot. Still need some hard decisions to be made when everyone returns.

Re: Projected Outcome : Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 am  

PopTart wrote:

I'm happy for them to have a break.
We need to be playing stress free and we are clearly playing like we are frightened to really go for it.

A couple of days then back to training as a team and I think it will help a lot. Still need some hard decisions to be made when everyone returns.

Exactly right, especially if the break is given as a concession.
With the players that we have available, Trinity ARE capable of getting the couple of wins that will secure our SL survival.
However, someone does need to convince them that they CAN do it.

Some additional help for Chester would be most welcome

Re: Projected Outcome : Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:33 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Exactly right, especially if the break is given as a concession.
With the players that we have available, Trinity ARE capable of getting the couple of wins that will secure our SL survival.
However, someone does need to convince them that they CAN do it.

Some additional help for Chester would be most welcome

I'm not being funny, but we are talking about a group/squad of players, who by hook or by crook had managed to get to 3rd in the league by mid to late May, now just over 2 months later they need someone to convince them they can stay up?!! Something has gone drastically wrong somewhere.......

Re: Projected Outcome : Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:54 am  

We just need a victory and quickly, the confidence is clearly rock bottom as it would be after so many losses. The quicker that victory the better

Re: Projected Outcome : Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:07 am  

We complain about too much rugby being played, so when the opportunity comes to get the players recharged and refocused for the final push, we want them beasted to death on the training paddock.

Re: Projected Outcome : Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:30 am  

After the defeat at Wigan the players were given 5 days off to recharge their batteries, on returning after the break the players and the coaching staff have 15 days to prepare for the next game at St Helens. I would imagine Chris Chester and his coaching staff would have used the players 5 day break to get their heads together to find a solution to fix the problem we find ourselves in, but if all the coaching staff decided to take a break too then I think the club is being badly mismanaged. We will find out the answer a week on Friday as to just what, if any work or coaching has been drilled into the player as we try to seek the points we need for survival.

Re: Projected Outcome : Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am  

There must be a worry regarding the back room staff, a well worn topic, other clubs seem fitter and maybe our rehab is not the best with people coming back when not ready. Obviously heart and commitment are one thing but our fade from 3rd is mental. London look light years ahead on fitness as an example.

Re: Projected Outcome : Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:32 pm  

I too was a little surprised that they had been given time off, but having spoken to an ex player he told me that it can be a good idea and that getting them in every day knocking seven bells out of the tackle bags can be counter productive and increase any malaise that there may be. Giving them six days off allows them to refresh mentally as well as physically and hopefully comeback ready and up for the fight. Flogging them day in day out at training may not necessarily be the best. I hope he's right, time will tell.