Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:11 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

So how long do you think it will take to find the Labour equivalent?

Perhaps Scargill living it large in Docklands using cash that 'nobody knows"exactly where he got it from cough, ALLEGEDLY

Taking the moral high ground in politics is a big mistake, it's built on quicksand.

It’s actually quite sad everyone claiming the moral high ground whilst behaving despicably

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:12 pm  

Sorry fisherman’s wasn’t aimed at you but the political classes

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:24 pm  

Kirmudgeonly wrote:

:D
It’s actually quite sad everyone claiming the moral high ground whilst behaving despicably

The problem I have with all these so called socialists, lefties, do gooders what ever they call themselves is they make their mouths about fighting for this that and the other is when the sheite hits the fan and they’ve got to fight for it they brick it, that’s if any have got something to fight for. Example, prison officers sold their right to strike for pieces of silver. All these socialists would cack themselves if it meant ragging up for more than half an hour.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:35 pm  

Look it is quite simple, what was at steak here was our precious dimocracy. In 2016 the nation was asked a question, do we want to leave or stay in the EU and there was nothing on the ballot paper about leaving with or without a deal. The people answered the question and this should have been implemented, that's democracy no iffs no butts endof.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:30 pm  

Up to middle 1975 more than 77% of all political parties were working class .Now it's less than 7% you can see why they have lost touch with the working class

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:20 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

have you had a walk around wakefield town centre, absolute disgrace how it’s been left to go to rack n ruin.Been a labour man all my mining days but I’ve struggle to see what they have brought to wakefield lately .Myself I think this is the backlash from Mary creigh going against the people of wakefield in the brexit vote in parliament.Thats twice they’ve been beat now who’s up for a third vote on brexit .

A bit puzzled by this. Who do you think decides how much money Wakefield has to spend in the five town centre's???

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:38 pm  

And if like me you walk around many other towns they're in just the same state. Shopping patterns are changing and there isn't enough passing trade to keep many shops alive. Even places like Stratford on Avon have these problems. A lot of the people who complain don't actually spend much in town so shops close. Then there's even less for the people who do actually shop in town. The very nature of town centres is changing. Rent and rate rises are often the killer blow. There's not much any council can do about it.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:35 pm  

Fortunately i live in the Hemsworth constituency....just, which thankfully remains Labour......just! It really does sicken me to see all these posts slamming Jeremy Corbyn , not just as a politician, but as a person. He's a decent, clean living family man who has integrity and honesty for God's sake. Are these people saying that they think a lying, cheating philanderer is a more voteworthy choice? If so, all I can say is this nation is sadly in a very, very bad state.
As for standing by the results of a so-called democratic referendum, have the people forgotten that the majority of Brexit voters voted to leave based on a whole list of lies posted on the side of a double-decker bus. on this issue alone the results of the brexit vote should have bee declared null and void.
As for Johnson all I can say is that if you thought Thatcher was bad then watch out!!!
I was no fan of Mary Creagh, but Wakefield deserves better than this.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:41 pm  

Hopefully, once Brexit has taken place and Boris's one trick pony is over all those that defected from red to blue will have regained their senses after the five year parliamentary period.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:47 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Fortunately i live in the Hemsworth constituency....just, which thankfully remains Labour......just! It really does sicken me to see all these posts slamming Jeremy Corbyn , not just as a politician, but as a person. He's a decent, clean living family man who has integrity and honesty for God's sake. Are these people saying that they think a lying, cheating philanderer is a more voteworthy choice? If so, all I can say is this nation is sadly in a very, very bad state.
As for standing by the results of a so-called democratic referendum, have the people forgotten that the majority of Brexit voters voted to leave based on a whole list of lies posted on the side of a double-decker bus. on this issue alone the results of the brexit vote should have bee declared null and void.
As for Johnson all I can say is that if you thought Thatcher was bad then watch out!!!
I was no fan of Mary Creagh, but Wakefield deserves better than this.

Corbyn may or not be a nice chap. But his student union style of politics would have bankrupted the country. I, and obviously millions of other people thought the same, thank god.