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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:56 am  
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Well I see quite a lot of cyclists without lights. They are the ones who also ‘jump’ lights , weave in and out, ride on pavements, run into you as you walk round a corner etc .
Obviously majority are responsible such as yourself Bren.
What I do not understand is why the police seemingly ignore this dangerous practice.

This is my experience of cyclists too.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:17 pm  
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Probably because in a pyramid of harms, they have much more serious matters to attend to when it comes to policing road users - such as drivers using their phones, speeding, driving under the influence, driving without insurance etc etc

My attitude, both pre cycling career and now, has been that cyclists are not the ones in possession of a 1 tonne death box, capable of 100+ miles an hour, and so the duty of care is naturally reduced; yes there have been tragic exceptions - but for the most part, cyclists are victims of poor behaviour on the road, rather than perpertrators. Ironic really, given that cyclists, horses and pedestrians are the ones entitled to use the road - car drivers are only allowed there by licence.

I realise it's annoying when someone doing something ticks you off - but it's also annoying when a cyclist ticks someone off, and by the time they get home, the story has been transposed to 'cyclists' instead of 'a cyclist.' Hence my plan to blow up all cars - I have had enough encounters with car driving idiots to justify that, if I use the same faulty reasoning as that which is applied to cyclists on a daily basis.


There are loads of cyclists without lights and quite often in dark clothing, oblivious to the fact that they are putting themselves in danger.
Who would be most responsible for an accident- someone driving at 35 in a 30 limit or the guy, riding his bike, without light, in dark clothing and ignoring the traffic signals.
The cyclist can see where they are going, just as a pedestrian can but, they need to be visible
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:28 pm  
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There are loads of cyclists without lights and quite often in dark clothing, oblivious to the fact that they are putting themselves in danger.
Who would be most responsible for an accident- someone driving at 35 in a 30 limit or the guy, riding his bike, without light, in dark clothing and ignoring the traffic signals.
The cyclist can see where they are going, just as a pedestrian can but, they need to be visible


See what you've done there - you've transposed some cyclists not using lights, to loads of cyclists not using lights; and along the way, you've added the extra offences of wearing dark clothing and ignoring traffic signals; who is this suicidal, night-vision having, ninja-costumed cyclist who has fomented such hatred in you?!

Just be careful in your fu**ing car mate - it's much more logically sound than turning cyclists into suicidal accident magnets, who deliberately ride their inoffensive, zero-emission, cheap form of transport, to entrap you into killing them with your car.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:54 pm  
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Just be careful in your fu**ing car mate - it's much more logically sound than turning cyclists into suicidal accident magnets, who deliberately ride their inoffensive, zero-emission, cheap form of transport, to entrap you into killing them with your car.


You are right about car drivers, but unfortunately from the evidence I've seen, there must be some of the cycling group you refer to out there.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:07 pm  
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You are right about car drivers, but unfortunately from the evidence I've seen, there must be some of the cycling group you refer to out there.


That's rather my point - in every activity you do, in every area of your life, there are people doing things outside the rules, or without care for other people; that doesn't mean that *everyone* who does that activity behaves like that, nor does it give you licence to vilify everyone who does that activity - apart from you of course - because we never include ourselves in these generalised rants - hence why we sit in our cars kicking off about 'traffic,' without accepting that by virtue of being stuck in traffic, we are ourselves, traffic.

Cyclists are, for the most part, either getting from a to b cheaply, or trying to be healthy; yes some cyclists are reckless or inconsiderate, but that's hardly reason for the easily triggered hate mob that will, at just one signal from their leather blouson wearing pied piper Mr Clarkson, wax lyrical about why cyclists should be insured, you should be able to run them off the road, or any other number of ridiculous and largely unfounded criticisms.

We do realise that you only hate us because your WAGs ogle our well-toned, freshly shaven, muscular legs - but you can get over that, surely?

Oh - and don't poison dogs.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:07 pm  
Nothing more annoying than a group of cyclists hogging the road. At least horse riders go single file or at least when you drive past them.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:08 pm  
And then there’s the unused cycle lane down Asdale Road.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:32 pm  
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Nothing more annoying than a group of cyclists hogging the road. At least horse riders go single file or at least when you drive past them.
think you'll need to rethink your attitude as it annoyed to the point of researching up are cyclists and horses allowed to ride in tandem on the road and the answer was yes, you also have to give 3 foot distance when overtaking them, this was when I couldn't over take two police horses having the steadiest stroll you could ever imagine and didn't give to hoots to what was lining up behind them
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:53 pm  
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Nothing more annoying than a group of cyclists hogging the road. At least horse riders go single file or at least when you drive past them.


You need to re-read the Highway Code mate - cyclists are perfectly entitled to ride two abreast (which they will often do to dissuade impatient idiots from overtaking them dangerously) and cycle lanes are by no means compulsory; I rarely use them myself, as they are too narrow, and force you to ride too near the kerb - which encourages the previously mentioned impatient idiot to overtake you when it's not safe to do so.

Cycling in an assertive lane position is a self-preservation tactic in many instances; I also like to do it *specifically* to pi$$ you off.
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Re: Poisoning O/T : Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:02 pm  
Willzay wrote:
Nothing more annoying than a group of cyclists hogging the road. At least horse riders go single file or at least
when you drive past them.


Cyclists are much safer to overtake when they ride in a small group, rather than in a long line. 8 cyclists riding in a small group is just like overtaking a single van. 8 cyclists riding in a long line requires much more length of road to overtake them, and more time spent on the wrong side of the road.
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