Re: Lee Kershaw : Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:20 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Bond...James Bond

Jeez.

Re: Lee Kershaw : Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:11 pm  

JINJER wrote:

Who is his agent?

Show me the dole queue?

Re: Lee Kershaw : Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Show me the dole queue?

I’m sure it’s not him

Re: Lee Kershaw : Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:06 pm  

Same as Jordy’s BLM. I was probably a bit harsh earlier. Was just hacked off with all this food on the table, Oliver Twist, can’t feed my family c**p

Not sure I see a way back though

Re: Lee Kershaw : Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:34 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

BJB is still to play this year, does anybody know when he will be back and the question will be what condition will he be in to play such a physical game.

Seen him training in his garden, dunno how game fit he'll be but he wasn't messing about with light exercise.

Re: Lee Kershaw : Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:57 pm  

Daddycool wrote:

Same as Jordy’s BLM. I was probably a bit harsh earlier. Was just hacked off with all this food on the table, Oliver Twist, can’t feed my family c**p

Not sure I see a way back though

Yes DC, but I didn’t want to give names out. I would’ve done the same cos I felt exactly the same as you , you know what contracts all players are on and I know a few as well believe it or not I know someone who would’ve snapped your hand off at that age. I can’t for the life of me understand why during these hard times for everyone that you’d turn down security like what was offered.

Re: Lee Kershaw : Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:08 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Yes DC, but I didn’t want to give names out. I would’ve done the same cos I felt exactly the same as you , you know what contracts all players are on and I know a few as well believe it or not I know someone who would’ve snapped your hand off at that age. I can’t for the life of me understand why during these hard times for everyone that you’d turn down security like what was offered.

BLM

We all know people like that. Some people are great in every way except where money is concerned. It’s like they have a blind spot where they just can’t see the bigger picture.

If they think they are missing out or are in some way getting less than they think they are owed they dig in there heals and nothing can budge them. They would lose a friend over a pound, I’ve seen it on nights out, you know my round cost more than anyone else’s, conveniently forgetting all the other nights out when there round cost less! It’s an odd trait I’ve never understood. Of course it’s not ‘only money’ I get that but some perspective wouldn’t go amiss.

This seems one such occasion.

In the words of the Rolling Stones (far better lyricists than the Beatles)...

‘You can’t always get what you want but you find sometimes you get what you need’

Re: Lee Kershaw : Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:31 pm  

vastman wrote:

BLM

We all know people like that. Some people are great in every way except where money is concerned. It’s like they have a blind spot where they just can’t see the bigger picture.

If they think they are missing out or are in some way getting less than they think they are owed they dig in there heals and nothing can budge them. They would lose a friend over a pound, I’ve seen it on nights out, you know my round cost more than anyone else’s, conveniently forgetting all the other nights out when there round cost less! It’s an odd trait I’ve never understood. Of course it’s not ‘only money’ I get that but some perspective wouldn’t go amiss.

This seems one such occasion.

In the words of the Rolling Stones (far better lyricists than the Beatles)...

‘You can’t always get what you want but you find sometimes you get what you need’

So true Vasty but sad too, if it’s anything to do with his agent I’ve no idea but from first hand experience Jordan was nearly lost to the game by one, well full time certainly.

Re: Lee Kershaw : Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:28 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

So true Vasty but sad too, if it’s anything to do with his agent I’ve no idea but from first hand experience Jordan was nearly lost to the game by one, well full time certainly.

I've always believed that Agents are utterly unnecessary but never having been a player I couldn't be sure. I couldn't see why occasionally employing the services of a contract Solicitor and an Accountant when required would not achieve the same. Let's be honest most players know what they are worth and with a bit of independent advice will get what they want Costs far less for the same service!

Having just read Alex Fergusons's book 'Leading' it appears I'm right. He says that 'unless a player wants to sell aftershave or get media work they are a waste of time. If a player is happy to live purely off his contract wage then all that is needed is...'. You guessed it, a contract Solicitor and an Accountant! This is even more relevant when you consider the sums a football player gets, should be really straight forward. Agents to me are snake oil salesmen and one of the greatest Managers in the history of British football agrees.

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Re: Lee Kershaw : Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:46 am  

vastman wrote:

I've always believed that Agents are utterly unnecessary but never having been a player I couldn't be sure. I couldn't see why occasionally employing the services of a contract Solicitor and an Accountant when required would not achieve the same. Let's be honest most players know what they are worth and with a bit of independent advice will get what they want Costs far less for the same service!

Having just read Alex Fergusons's book 'Leading' it appears I'm right. He says that 'unless a player wants to sell aftershave or get media work they are a waste of time. If a player is happy to live purely off his contract wage then all that is needed is...'. You guessed it, a contract Solicitor and an Accountant! This is even more relevant when you consider the sums a football player gets, should be really straight forward. Agents to me are snake oil salesmen and one of the greatest Managers in the history of British football agrees.

The reason for the agent is the contacts you need to get the contract for the solicitor to work on.
The RFL could easily put something in place to centralise contracts so that there was no need for agents. But equally that would reduce some negotiations that ultimately net players a better wage.

I don't think agents are a bad thing in principle. It's when they get greedy and forget that they work for the players that things go wrong.