Re: Player strike : Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:20 pm  

PopTart wrote:

But there are potential loans and other ways of bridging the gap.
You might not like the terms given there are other ways for the club to support you.

For what it's worth I would take the cut but only if it were equal. I wouldn't like it if I was taking a bigger cut than others.
I don't mind there being a lower limit though.

Without knowing all the details it's poor form to criticise the senior player.
We have no idea why this is happening or whether it is even just paper talk.

If my company said you need to take a pay cut or the company could go under then id agree has so.e money is better than none i feel for any player who has to drop some money but surley its better to have some than none at all as been stated there will be a fair few players looking for clubs come the end of the season so why risk employment now..not having a pop at any player has i get them but formost to myself is the future of wakefield trinity

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:37 am  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I'm 100% behind the players and their union on this.

If the sport cannot afford to honour contracts, then the sport is morally void and does not deserve saving.

They should try being self employed.

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:41 am  

Willzay wrote:

They should try being self employed.

Is that a suggestion or a moan?

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I agree but there is only so much that can be passed onto the supporters because I believe we already pay more than most clubs when additional items like bar access and drink prices are added.

When you say "passed on" here we are only talking about refunds for season tickets - and many on here - like myself - would not want to receive one.
As for going to the bar and drinks, that's a personal choice.
Some of the season ticket holders that I go with don't go to the bar etc.

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:11 am  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

When you say "passed on" here we are only talking about refunds for season tickets - and many on here - like myself - would not want to receive one.
As for going to the bar and drinks, that's a personal choice.
Some of the season ticket holders that I go with don't go to the bar etc.

Quite right BG, I've heard it a few times from some of his mates that BLM never goes to the bar

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:19 am  

Trying not to be emotive about the issue but its difficult. Without wanting to downplay the very careful financial management of the club - we're hand to mouth at Wakefield, and probably most clubs. Income has dried up due to something that no one could see coming or really mitigate against. I've got sympathies with both sides but fundamentally all that matters to me is that the club survives. I find it hard to believe it will come to a point where there is a walk out of playing staff and lets hope its all resolved this week. Unfortunately looks like there will be bridges that cannot be mended.

Its been pretty public all along that someone was playing up, initially when the squad was furloughed there was a comment about someone earning 10k a month should really have some savings, there was then some pretty public comments about attitudes of not some players not being forgotten and now we have the grand newspaper hyperbole of a 'strike' threat. Would have to believe its the same player at the centre of it. If a player thinks they can do better elsewhere then I'd invite them to go seek a move because I don't believe the contract they are looking for will be out there, and if they're that special we'll have a transfer fee.

I've had suspicions about who it might be like most of us will have but I hope I'm wrong because I'd be very disappointed.

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:29 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

Hi RC, please don’t read into this as a pop at you, but I don’t think we should be putting names to this rumour until we know if any of this is true

Wasn’t it carter who stated a player was asking for strike?

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:32 am  

djhudds wrote:

Wasn’t it carter who stated a player was asking for strike?

The Mirror article says so:

"Chief executive Michael Carter says that the average loss for players in net pay would be 11.5 percent over the year with the highest loss being 16.7 percent, but has confirmed that one senior member of Trinity’s squad has been calling for a strike."

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:59 am  

Advocating a strike is ok when the employer is flush with cash and not doing the right thing.
However, with the current situation, it looks more like everyone needs to help "carry the load" in order for the club to survive.

It's a very tough ask for all concerned.
Most seem to have been furloughed and of course, everyone has spending commitments / families to support etc.

However, we all hope that this year is a blip and that things will eventually return to something like normal, even though this may take 2/3 years ?

If this boils down to a reduction in salaries or the club going bust, I guess that players have a simple choice or, they could ask for a move.
As a sport, we need to cr@p or get off the pot.

How long, time wise, can we actually go, before time has to be called on the season.
Somehow, games need to start up again and soon and if an odd one or two players aren't up for it, we have to move on without them.

[PopTart]

Re: Player strike : Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:09 am  

It's OK everybody being all hung ho about what they would do but you don't actually know what's happening. (neither do I of course)

Saying you'd take a pay cut is all well and good but what about if everyone else has say 10% cut and you have 16%
Abd you only just pay your mortgage,
And you have kids and the 10% dont
And you had a contract offer elsewhere but decided to stay for the good of the team
Etc etc

It's never as clean cut as the papers make out.

Personally I would never strike. It's an out of date concept now. But when you don't know the reasons it's difficult to draw conclusions and easy to blame.