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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 am  
Willzay wrote:
Salford away I think. Back in March.


And Salford scored first in that game!
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:24 am  
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And Salford scored first in that game!


I thought we did. :THINK:
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:44 am  
wrencat1873 wrote:
I wish I'd had whatever you have been drinking this morning Vastman.
My usual coffee isn't anything close to helping come to that conclusion.

Hope you're right though :thumb:

Personally, I think it will be 40 point to not many


I’ve watched Trinity for a while now and we far more often win the games we are least expected to and blow the games we should win at a canter. It may not be this game but it will be one like it I can guarantee you.

In the Inevitable trinity five year great to crap cycle it’s due to turn about now or fairly close too.

No stats, no science, no pro or anti Chester bias it’s just how we are, what fun! You’ll be left scratching your head wondering why they weren’t playing like that before as they suddenly look like world beaters. Of course the sting will come when the next week somebody like HKR puts fifty on us. :DEPRESSED:
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:42 am  
We will not score against Wigan no matter what halves combination is drawn out of the bag this week - that will be their main focus, nilling us, regardless of what they do in attack...I just hope it's not more than the 58 Catalans posted against us
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:09 pm  
vastman wrote:
I’ve watched Trinity for a while now and we far more often win the games we are least expected to and blow the games we should win at a canter. It may not be this game but it will be one like it I can guarantee you.

In the Inevitable trinity five year great to crap cycle it’s due to turn about now or fairly close too.

No stats, no science, no pro or anti Chester bias it’s just how we are, what fun! You’ll be left scratching your head wondering why they weren’t playing like that before as they suddenly look like world beaters. Of course the sting will come when the next week somebody like HKR puts fifty on us. :DEPRESSED:


I agree with you that, Trinity have, over the years, pulled out some great shock results.
Wins against Saints, Catalan and an opener at Wigan a few years ago but, this side doesn't look to have that same spirit and desire, not by a long way.
We have too many players just going through the motions and an absolute lack of any on field organisation.

I usually attend around 25 games a season and at the moment, I'm struggling to even get to the pub to watch, although I have seen every pre lock down game "in the flesh" and suffered every post lockdown game on the TV.

The big fear for us at the moment is that selling S/T's for next season will be nigh on impossible.
Most S/T holders (rightly) waived their right to a refund but, with appalling form and uncertainty over what may happen next season both on and off the field, I can foresee many S/T holders waiting to see what happens and this could be catastrophic.

Conversely, if the side was seen to be doing well and at least busting a gut on the field, fans would be far, far happier to "take a chance" on S/T's for next season

I dont think Friday will be the game when we turn the corner but, we absolutely need to change things around and quick.
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:30 pm  
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I thought we did. :THINK:


No it was defo them.
Actually, they led twice through Lolohea & Sio.
Was there and thought - here we go again.... :lol:
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:16 pm  
BarnsleyGull wrote:
No it was defo them.
Actually, they led twice through Lolohea & Sio.
Was there and thought - here we go again.... :lol:


Fair enough.

I missed our first try (Jowitt?) because I was stuck in a queue for a sausage roll.
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:16 pm  
reedy wrote:
So what's acceptable in our game against Wigan.


You know what reedy my liccle lad, I think it would change person to person for what is deemed as acceptable. I'd personally be satisfied with a change in attitude, I want to see a revised Trinity out there who want to put on a show. The 2pts aren't likely but providing we're putting up some sort of fight for 80 minutes rather than trying to dominate a side with 12 minutes to play, I'll be happy with it.

You never know, we might be second bottom come next week depending on what the Robins do against Leeds. A 23+ loss puts them bottom :D (at least for a couple of days)

Be interesting to see the 17 this week considering the comments on certain players returning to action.
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:42 pm  
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I agree with you that, Trinity have, over the years, pulled out some great shock results.
Wins against Saints, Catalan and an opener at Wigan a few years ago but, this side doesn't look to have that same spirit and desire, not by a long way.
We have too many players just going through the motions and an absolute lack of any on field organisation.

I usually attend around 25 games a season and at the moment, I'm struggling to even get to the pub to watch, although I have seen every pre lock down game "in the flesh" and suffered every post lockdown game on the TV.

The big fear for us at the moment is that selling S/T's for next season will be nigh on impossible.
Most S/T holders (rightly) waived their right to a refund but, with appalling form and uncertainty over what may happen next season both on and off the field, I can foresee many S/T holders waiting to see what happens and this could be catastrophic.

Conversely, if the side was seen to be doing well and at least busting a gut on the field, fans would be far, far happier to "take a chance" on S/T's for next season

I dont think Friday will be the game when we turn the corner but, we absolutely need to change things around and quick.


Memories play tricks. They said that about all those teams in the past and I think if your honest we’ve had far more clueless and gutless teams than this one. It’s just that this team is in focus because it’s the current one.

I could if I was bothered go back and find numerous a Trinity teams that have been far worse with far worse results. Plenty of 60 and even 70 point thrashings. Where as this team has lacked composure it’s still played some good RL through parts of most games. I’ve seen Trinity teams that quite literally couldn’t put a pass together. Jowitts first try against Hull would have been the try of the season had they been able to actually score it,

It’s hard to keep some perspective when everything seems to be going wrong but in my opinion this team has more spirit and talent than most of our previous duffer squads.
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Re: Wigan next : Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:30 pm  
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Memories play tricks. They said that about all those teams in the past and I think if your honest we’ve had far more clueless and gutless teams than this one. It’s just that this team is in focus because it’s the current one.

I could if I was bothered go back and find numerous a Trinity teams that have been far worse with far worse results. Plenty of 60 and even 70 point thrashings. Where as this team has lacked composure it’s still played some good RL through parts of most games. I’ve seen Trinity teams that quite literally couldn’t put a pass together. Jowitts first try against Hull would have been the try of the season had they been able to actually score it,

It’s hard to keep some perspective when everything seems to be going wrong but in my opinion this team has more spirit and talent than most of our previous duffer squads.


Almost nail on head.
I agree that our current squad does have more talent than so many others over the past 25/30 years and that is what makes this season (and the majority of last season) so damn disappointing.
Harbin or Kear would have killed to have these players at their disposal but, for whatever reason, the team is somewhat less than the (theoretical) sum of the parts.
In any half decent side, the opposite is true.
Taking account of their individual ability, how many players this season, would you say are currently hitting 7/10 or better individually, for the full 80 minutes.
When you try and go through the side and apply this measure, it's certainly less than the fingers of one hand.

We desperately need a midfield general or something close.
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