Re: Trinity clear out : Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:25 pm  

Teltry wrote:

I'm not sure of any players leaving the club that didn't want to so to say they were thrown under a bus seems a bit dubious. As for Pauli maybe people should find out the real reason why he behaved as he did and why he wanted to leave or just maybe why he had to go. Just sumising is not the way and it's not for me to tell you what you obviously don't know but it seems blaming the coach is the easiest solution. Dear oh dear we are becoming so predictable.

Maybe we should.

Re: Trinity clear out : Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:28 pm  

PopTart wrote:

The losing weight bit isn't a coaching thing though.

I accept Watson is an exceptional coach and the evidence shows he's better than Chester, certainly right now anyway but I don't imagine Watson is asking him to do any more or less than Chester did.
However it ended up that way he didn't want to be part of the team. That's all of it, not just, Chester. Maybe he likes the stadium better. But either way the decision to let him go was clearly the right one if the ability was in him and he chose not to use it at Wakefield.

I think we have discussed the issue in this thread and he wasn't the only one with the "issue" who has left.
As for he likes the stadium better, well obviously......

Re: Trinity clear out : Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:12 pm  

It could be because he knows what to expect of him rather than the adhoc approach we currently adopt. He ran a lot of dummy lines which due to his size also causes the defence to react leaving space for others. The Chester apologists can explain why we appear to have only one move which is the ball back inside which no longer fools any team, well not for the last two seasons.
It’s also strange how any players that leave is the correct decision and is further proof the success of Chester as a coach. Let’s look at his recent signings Gigot (no comment), Kay (ok), Atkins (too old and carrying injuries), Green (could be good but gone backwards under Chester), Westerman (lost a lot but looks good in our current team) Kelepi (a good signing but played more often than not out of position), King (this will be interesting to see how he goes at KR) and I am sure many others.
Over to the usual suspects to defend Chester without actually saying anything but what would you do, in answer to that it’s simple sack Chester and the rest of his team.

Re: Trinity clear out : Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:58 pm  

Travelling Wilbury wrote:

Maybe Orr coming in for Finn. Was a fine player in his day,and his recent time alongside Powell, knows what makes a team tick to win games, well before lockdown

It could be Orr as he didn't say he was leaving to better himself, just to pursue other coaching options.
May not be staying in rugby league though.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:39 am  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

Thanks for your brilliant insight.
I'll sleep a lot better tonight knowing that.

Perhaps a different insight from you would be far more constructive than unnecessary sarcasm, you could always start by pointing out the reasons you think he's wrong, that's assuming your not just relying on blind faith in the coach.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:53 am  

Teltry wrote:

I'm not sure of any players leaving the club that didn't want to so to say they were thrown under a bus seems a bit dubious. As for Pauli maybe people should find out the real reason why he behaved as he did and why he wanted to leave or just maybe why he had to go. Just sumising is not the way and it's not for me to tell you what you obviously don't know but it seems blaming the coach is the easiest solution. Dear oh dear we are becoming so predictable.

Things are only obvious to those that know the obvious, clearly fans obviously don't know what went on according to you anyway, other than a passing interest I doubt they really care anyway, the main thing is he's gone, maybe you could give an insight as to the reasons he left now that you've sat the fans on the horse but refuse to give them a ride, unless of course your one of those who just prefer to be perceived as in the know.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:19 am  

I am not the messenger just pointing out that reasons exist and as you say he's gone and you doubt the fans don't care then it doesn't matter. Also I don't perceive to be in the know there are far too many things I don't know. If you really want details ask him.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:59 am  

Teltry wrote:

I am not the messenger just pointing out that reasons exist and as you say he's gone and you doubt the fans don't care then it doesn't matter. Also I don't perceive to be in the know there are far too many things I don't know. If you really want details ask him.

If there are reasons why he left other than maybe the club had got fed up with him, why get involved in a pointless exchange of words about the reasons' he supposedly left for and in doing so portraying yourself as the messenger, that's the reason in case you haven't yet realised why I'm asking you.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:44 am  

1315trinity wrote:

There are no doubt financial implications in getting rid of anyone on contract, but the usual posters on here fail to see that.
So, there's a little more to it I'm afraid than sweeping the magic wand and saying off you go....

I am aware that there are financial implications, although it depends on player to player, but they don’t always dent the budget too much. When I came to the club in 2012, we had agreements in place for Morrison, Tony, Davey and Tom Lillicrop. Then a bit later for Southern, Ellis and James.

Re: Trinity clear out : Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:52 am  

I've already told you I am not the messenger but things happen in and outside Trinity. I did not intend sitting you on the horse as you put it so stop sticking your spurs in the horse's ribs cos it ain't gonna move.